Akhôrahil Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, EricW said: I get the impression Gargarthi are also kind of lazy? They're opportunists rather than an organised threat? Orlanthi, Humakt and Storm Bull make an effort, while Gargathi brutalise and rob people because the beer ran out? They're the dirty slobs on your street who terrorise the local kids and piss on your lawn? I don’t know… they are probably bad at impulse control and at planning for the future, and they will (much like Storm Bulls) party until all the beer is gone, but staying alive as a thoroughly outcast bandit (especially in the Wastes) can’t be easy work. But yeah, not working until they have to, sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 1:28 PM, Akhôrahil said: Today in play I likened Storm Bulls to an outlaw biker gang who just so happens to also fight monsters. If Storm Bulls didn't have a useful purpose in fighting Chaos, they would be completely socially unacceptable, hardly any better than Gagarth. Orlanth, Humakt and Storm Bull all found something to differentiate them from mere brutes and bullies (like Vadrus and maybe even Umath). Gagarth went the other direction, embracing it. But that useful function of Storm Bull is of incredible importance and often existential for the community. It is THE defining feature of Storm Bull - he's violent and filled with rage BECAUSE he exists to sacrifice himself in the fight against Chaos. So although outlaw biker gang is often used as a short-hand for how Storm Bull cultists behave, it does not help to understand why the community supports and even loves Storm Bull. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecake Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Plenty of people in our world want to be predatory bullies and get stuff for free, and they don’t even get magic for it. Gagarth is a god who approves of your mean bullying ways, and gives you magic for it too. Edited January 31 by davecake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynneadwraith Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, Jeff said: So although outlaw biker gang is often used as a short-hand for how Storm Bull cultists behave, it does not help to understand why the community supports and even loves Storm Bull. Outlaw biker gang that is the only thing standing in the way of being overtaken by a people trafficking cartel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, Ynneadwraith said: Outlaw biker gang that is the only thing standing in the way of being overtaken by a people trafficking cartel? Again not really. Storm Bull exists to fight Chaos. Usually to sacrifice himself to fight Chaos. Everything else about him comes out of that. Is he violent, deranged, impulsive, aggressive, and fill with rage? Likely. Are his worshipers little more than mindless brutes, barely human, and social unacceptable? Sure. But people in these communities forgive that because he fights Chaos. And not only does he fight Chaos, he actively seeks it out to fight. The Storm Bull cult exists for that reason alone. Not to be a source of warriors, not to be a band of bullies and troublemakers, etc, although it certainly can be all of those things. But it is first and foremost a Chaos fighting operation. It is probably better to think of them like a special military unit that does the absolutely essential jobs nobody else will - and as a result, they get away with behaviour that would normally be severely punished. Nobody else is going to do what they do, and what they do is essential for survival. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techpriest Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So Stormbull's cult is the CIA Special Activities Division Special Operations Group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 39 minutes ago, Techpriest said: So Stormbull's cult is the CIA Special Activities Division Special Operations Group? More a local vigilante militia taking on local gangsters so others can enjoy more safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Biles Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Techpriest said: So Stormbull's cult is the CIA Special Activities Division Special Operations Group? The black ops wing of Project Blue Book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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