Bill the barbarian Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Yeah, despite the fact that some Tories thought her a Little Gem, eventually they saw reason, told her she couldn't Romaine in post and sent her off on a Rocket.😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Absentia Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Does anyone else see the mopey Truss-face in the head of lettuce? That'd be the head on the right. !i! 2 ...developer of White Rabbit Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I heard today that the Tories are talking about Boris Badanov running again? REALLY? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dupont Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I don't want to open a can of worm and start a new scandal, but I doubt a single lettuce lasted that long! Unless it was (secretly?) rooted?! 😮 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, svensson said: I heard today that the Tories are talking about Boris Badanov running again? My vote is for Natasha Fatale! 27 minutes ago, Lloyd Dupont said: I don't want to open a can of worm and start a new scandal Too, late, with that knack for scandal are you sure you are not a British MP? 1 hour ago, Ian Absentia said: Does anyone else see the mopey Truss-face in the head of lettuce? That'd be the head on the right. No. but isn't that Jesu, never mind... let's not start that scandal. Edited October 20, 2022 by Bill the barbarian 2 ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It's all very depressing, it's getting so much harder to justify mocking the US for their leadership train wreck over the last few years. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, PhilHibbs said: It's all very depressing, it's getting so much harder to justify mocking the US for their leadership train wreck over the last few years. Worthy of a mention, I only post this, and have a bit of a laugh with y'all because I have met few from Britain sans a sense of humour, and lord knows we all need a laugh on occasion. Okay, these days we need more laughs than that!Besides I'm Irish, I truly can't help it. 2 1 ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Well, I can only say this... the US midterm elections are going to be HUGE this time around, especially in the Senate. Our womenfolk are **highly** pissed off and I expect them to vote in record numbers. The Roe v. Wade SCOTUS ruling has a broad spectrum of women working together in ways they never would have on any other issue. OTOH, I believe that our national debate on Abortion will be resolved in the next 24 months and I see that as a very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qizilbashwoman Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, svensson said: I believe that our national debate on Abortion will be resolved in the next 24 months and I see that as a very good thing. you gotta be a boomer, nobody younger has any belief in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Qizilbashwoman said: you gotta be a boomer, nobody younger has any belief in the future and damn, this is not funny, but I could not find a button to give me Confused, Sad and Haha.... Hey, I just realized, I resemble that remark!! 🥺 Edited October 20, 2022 by Bill the barbarian ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, Qizilbashwoman said: you gotta be a boomer, nobody younger has any belief in the future Nope. I just miss the cutoff of 'boomer'. I turn 57 in a few days, and I'd like to share just a bit of wisdom with you... When I was 18 years old, the world was divided in half, democracy on one side and communism on the other. At one point in 1983, the whole world came closer to nuclear Armageddon than it had been since the Cuban Missile Crisis [which, for the record, happened before I was born]. I had a front row, or 'front tank' rather, view of the proceedings. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, thought that the Earth would get out of the decade without the nukes flying. Later, when I was 22, I found myself in a war-that-wasn't-a-war... one that had no 'good guys' and whole bunch of bad guys. I honestly didn't think I'd make it to 23. Obviously, I did. The wisdom from that story is this: 'Never' is a mighty long time and there's been nobody yet who can reliably predict the future. The closest you're ever going to get is 'probably'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dupont Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It's not all about War... all our parent have their own home, not so much nowadays.... That is a clear regression and a good cause for pessimism.. I am also angry, when I grew up I was pretty sure I lived in the better time there ever was by a long margin. Now I think, while it is much better indeed, I will give it a fail, considering 200 years of industrial revolution and tremendously unparallel energy and food production for easily the last 100 years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Sure. I can absolutely understand that, @Lloyd Dupont. One of my chief complaints against and about the Republicans is the extent by which they've allowed the rich to destroy the middle class and then blame the poor for it. Where I live is one of the more expensive regions of the country. A two-bedroom apartment rents for $1200 /mo plus utilities. And home builders don't built 'starter homes' anymore. ALL they build are these fake, pre-fab developments /HOAs where every single house is $450K or better. So in order to buy a home, you have to make better than $80K per year. All others must rent. And this lets the property management companies charge whatever the Hell they want. And that's not even getting into the assholes who list the houses available to buy on AirBnB or VRBO.... I know it sometimes sounds as if I'm against the Left, but I can assure you that I'm not. Neither am I for the Right. I have seen what unbridled socialism does to a culture and country and want no part of it. Neither do I want free-market capitalism. A balance HAS to be struck, and right now that balance is entirely out of whack. Edited October 21, 2022 by svensson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 After less than two months in office, Truss will receive the ex-Prime Minister's 'allowance' of £115,000 a year for life. I'm afraid I don't know the dollar equivalent, I haven't checked the exchange rate in the last hour.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dupont Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I should apply for prime ministership I reckon! Good pay for life, nothing to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Trump gets $250,000 per year for life. AND Secret Service protection. Talk about a 'crime against humanity'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Yeah, but Trump needs protection. Desperately. Truss doesn't even need salad dressing, unlike a lettuce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qizilbashwoman Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Ali the Helering said: Yeah, but Trump needs protection. Desperately. Truss doesn't even need salad dressing, unlike a lettuce. if he's sent to jail for refusing the subpoena from Congress, how is that going to work, exactly? I've been wondering 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Qizilbashwoman said: if he's sent to jail for refusing the subpoena from Congress, how is that going to work, exactly? I've been wondering Has his Executive Privilege been quashed by a court? I ask because I honestly don't know. We've seen POTUS' dodge Congressional supoenas before, after all. Don't get me wrong here... Cheeto Benito absolutely needs to answer for the used kitty litter that was his tenure, but I'm not at all certain he'll actually end up answering for 6 JAN like he ought to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Qizilbashwoman said: if he's sent to jail for refusing the subpoena from Congress, how is that going to work, exactly? I've been wondering With his Secret Service guards he becomes the big man on tha block and takes over the contraband market muscling out the mafia, the bikers and all the other gangs! (proudly returning topics/threads to humour since 2017)! Edited October 21, 2022 by Bill the barbarian 1 1 ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 OK, I have an honest question for those of our British friends. I understand that many of you don't like Truss or Johnson. Setting those feelings aside for a moment, could you explain just WHY Truss was forced to step down? This is a major difference between the US and UK democracies and one I still have trouble grasping. It really does seem to me that the head of government is being forced to step down because they had a bad opinion poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dupont Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) If it's anything like Australia, one doesn't vote for the prime minister, but for their local MP, and then each party decide who is their party leader, aka Prime Minister. I.e. while the people vote for an MP (hence a party indirectly), the party itself, and not the people, decide for the head of government. Edited October 21, 2022 by Lloyd Dupont 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud64 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) If you want a better understanding of UK constitutional matters, with clarity and from a legal eagle who's worked in government on these matters, I highly recommend David Alan Green's (DAG) Law and Policy blog. This entry may help non-Brits (and, indeed, Brits as well) understand what the post of Prime Minister means or, rather, doesn't… https://davidallengreen.com/2022/10/a-prime-minister-in-name-only/ Truss was forced to step down because she had lost the confidence of parliament, and not only parliament, even of her own party. Our PM is not like the US President, though at a casual glance it may seem like it. They act as representative and leader for the government of the day, but they are not the head of state, as the US President is. Charley III is, and about that we have no choice (but let's be careful what we wish for.) One's vote is for the party, not the PM, though personality clearly has a great influence on many people. One of the arguments for a General Election being called now is that without one the UK will end up with a PM that the people have not voted for, a PM that only party members (not just MPs, anyone paying their party dues) have voted for. That is irrelevant, as much as a general election feels the right way to do things. As DAG often points out, "…every Prime Minister since 1974 has either gained or left office between general elections. Edited October 21, 2022 by Cloud64 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, svensson said: OK, I have an honest question for those of our British friends. I understand that many of you don't like Truss or Johnson. Setting those feelings aside for a moment, could you explain just WHY Truss was forced to step down? This is a major difference between the US and UK democracies and one I still have trouble grasping. It really does seem to me that the head of government is being forced to step down because they had a bad opinion poll. It wasn't a bad opinion poll, but rather total incompetence with respect to the budget. The figures didn't balance, the tax rates for the rich were being cut in the midst of a financial crisis hurting many on the lower rates of pay and threatening to devastate those on welfare, it triggered the fall in the pound to the worst exchange rate ever, the Stock Exchange was slipping, and government bonds were losing value. Besides that, everything was fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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