littlewitchmaus Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 so! a major npc in the campaign i'm working on is a trollkin who makes his living as a scribe and a document collector amd i'm leaning towards him being an argan argar initiate (communication.) does this sound reasonable or would there be a more suitable cult? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlearner Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Great if he can join, but it would be hard. Perhaps some sort of a minor spirit cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Farrell Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Argan Argar sounds appropriate to me! Edited December 5, 2023 by Jason Farrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Why not Lhankor Mhy? He doesn't have any racial restrictions, and if your trollkin is free enough to be making his own living then he's probably outside of troll lands, so access to an LM temple shouldn't be a problem. No better cult for a scribe than the god of scribes! Argan Argar is great for being an intermediary between trolls and humans, but not so much for paperwork. Edited December 5, 2023 by Richard S. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) I too like AA. He's the great patron of "improved" Trollkin, after all. Maybe also a lay-member in LM... likely, in fact! Maybe even aspiring to dual-initiate? (I haven't checked Cult Compatibility; but even if it's a problem, IMG a very-grateful LM high priest might be able to "arrange" an exception) Edited December 11, 2023 by g33k mis-autocorrected typo 2 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, g33k said: I haven't checked Cult Compatibility In the big table in the Cult Compendium LM is Neutral to AA while AA is Friendly to LM, so dual initiation shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Desperate WindChild Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If he lives in troll culture then AA and why not, in addition, LM or Irripi Ontor (but imagine how he met the cult) if he lives in orlanthi culture then LM but in town not in clans land (well my Glorantha does not welcome strangers) if he lives in lunar culture Irripi Ontor or maybe but it seems to me difficult (but I may be wrong) Buserian. I imagine Buserian is much much more difficult than IO because Buserian is (if I understand well) a light god ’  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Argan Argar has a literacy requirement for initiates and upward, which means they are lay members of LM almost by default. AA seems to be the go-to cult for troll literacy, and the cult is known to make the best use of trollkin, e.g. with the introduction of the spearkin. 2 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Desperate WindChild Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Joerg said:  Argan Argar has a literacy requirement for initiates and upward, which means they are lay members of LM almost by default.  That is something I don’t understand (I m not challenging, just looking for a reason) i have no issue in Orlanth pantheon, you learn r/w with THE cult providing literacy. That’s part of their role so of course you are at least lay member but in another culture, where there may be (probably ?) no LM initiate at all and where literacy is very implemented (AA, KL high level, etc…) why should they worship LM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Argan Argar is deeply intertwined with the Theyalan or Unity Council. While the deity himself wasn't present for the Unity Battle or I Fought We Won, his son/avatar Ezkankekko (The Only Old One) was, and probably shaped the cult. The Kitori Shadowlords were keeping the books on the Equal Exchange between the survival sites in the Silver Age and the Dawn Age. The act of reading is a magical dedication to the Lord of Knowledge and Literacy. It may be low level, but it is done all over the world. Whether all the literates go to visit a shrine to LM regularly to deposite a certain amount of magic points is a different question. I would not be surprised if some form of offering would be included in certain AA rites, though. There ought to be a hero who developed the writing of Darktongue in darkness. There is a good chance that this entity does receive associate worship in AA rites. 4 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Argan Argar sounds good to me. A Trollkin Scribe would probably be powerful, or useful, enough to be able to join Argan Argar, after all, the cult fields phalanxes of trollkin spearmen. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godlearner Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 10:33 PM, Godlearner said: Perhaps some sort of a minor spirit cult. Rotus Penpusher Dark custodian. Rotus was smart. Very smart. Too smart for a Trollkin. That never ends well for one of its kind. From most of his kin aspire to stay out of the next serving of Kin soup, or as ball of the next Trollball championship. Rotus wanted more than to survive. He learned how to count and was taken on by an Argar Argar to care for his good. This lead Rotus to start a career of bookkeeping and janitorial duties. A loyal companion, Rotus was never much of a merchant, but no one was better of tracking and making sure the even the last Bolg was accounted for. Even after death he maintain his now everlasting vigil for bookworms and arithmetical errors. Â Rotus will his rune spell, as a Hero Cult, and bookkeeping skills to any pursuing the safe route of Maintenance. CHARACTERISTICS INT 12 POW 25 CHA 20 Move: 6 Runes: Darkness 60%, Law 100% Rune Spells: Clean manuscript. Skills: Craft (Restoration) 150%, Craft (Bookkeeping) 150% Â Clean manuscript 1 Point Ranged, instant, non-stackable, reusable (Law) This spell is cast on a single book, scroll or manuscript. It immediately removes minor damage due to dirt or water damage and even restores tearing and handling. Cast on any script recently written, the spell will correct arithmetic errors. It does not perform spell or grammar checking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasevir Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 YGMV...but trollcults do kinda look down on trollkin and rarely allow one to join a real (troll!) cult. In that sense a human cult is oft easier. Xiola umbar being offbeat here as is argan argar (full of humans too) to a lesser degree. And then there is Zo!-Rak!-Zo_ran! (2 slow one fast double drumbeat). Guess the 3 sibling darknesses seeing yelm the unseeable made them all a little weird. Then there are the old school rules of no one below one 90% knowledge skill being eligble as a novice of lhankor mhy. Serve as a hang around busybody learning as you slave away until then. Merely worked and not beaten or eaten?? Paradise better than hell to a trollkin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlewitchmaus Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 thanks for the responses! i've settled on him being an initiate of argan argar and a lay member of lhankor mhy (and this will allow him to set up shop in clearwine without it being too difficult and allows him to hire the pcs to retrieve scrolls and the like that would be of interest to both temples.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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