Karandras Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 After my 10+ years pendragon campaign ended due to the characters being lost with my car, I have been considering starting a Space opera Campaign. I want to use the old ICE SM2 setting for it but using BRB as the system. I am however unsure as to how I should deal with spacecraft. Has anyone here done a space opera campaign with BRP? Tips, tricks, pitfalls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The biggest pitfall is that there is very little SciFi stuff out there to work with. If you want to use spaceships you are pretty much on your own as far as stats and game mechanics go. As far as tips & tricks go you could use something like Cthulhu Rising sans Cthulu Mythos for some of the tech and spacecraft. Or you could adapt or adopt spacecraft rules from another RPG to BRP. The latter isn;t as crazy as it sounds since many RPGs use differernt rules for spacecraft than they do for characters. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus1966 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Have to agree with Atgxtg on this. There's not a lot out there.... but I'd take a look at GURPS Space 4th Edition, which contains much useful information that, while biased towards its own game system, can be adapted for use with other rules. As an aside, the best fun I ever had with Spacecraft combat was Full Thrust, so I'd check that out too... it doesn't adhere to any system but its own, but is fast, simple, and adaptable with a little work... Quote No power in the 'Verse can stop me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It sounds like a good opportunity for a new teaser for BRP Mecha. I will post a new one each week. I cannot collect them in a downloadable supplement for copyright reason, but posting them here on a fan site should be okay. So here comes Space Cruiser Yamato (I hope it is "Space Opera" enough for the OP) [table] [tr][th]SIZ Class[/th][th]SIZ[/th][th]POW[/th][th]DEX[/th][th]APP[/th][th]PP[/th][th]MOV[/th][th]Handling[/th][/tr] [tr][th]30[/th][th]900[/th][th]900[/th][th]-[/th][th]-[/th][th]900[/th][th]2[/th][th]-[/th][/tr] [/table] [table] [tr] [th]D20[/th] [td]01-03[/td] [td]04-06[/td] [td]07-09[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]14-16[/td] [td]18-20[/td] [/tr] [tr] [th]Location[/th] [td]Bow[/td] [td]Starboard[/td] [td]Port[/td] [td]Lower Deck[/td] [td]Main Deck[/td] [td]Weapon Deck[/td] [td]Stern[/td] [/tr] [tr] [th]Armour[/th] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [/tr] [tr] [th]Hit points[/th] [td]30[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]30[/td] [td]30[/td] [/tr] [tr] [th]Sections[/th] [td]Main Engine [2],[/td] [td]Point Def Turret (x4) [2, 3, 4, 5][/td] [td]Point Def Turret (x4) [2, 3, 4, 5][/td] [td]Observatory [2], [/td] [td]Command Room [2],[/td] [td]Main Cannon Battery (x3) [2,3,4][/td] [td]Motion Wave Gun [2],[/td] [/tr] [tr] [th][/th] [td]Auxiliary Engine x2 [3,4],[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]Fighter Launch Port [3][/td] [td]Sensors [3], [/td] [td][/td] [td]Missile Launcher (x2) [3, 4][/td] [/tr] [tr] [th][/th] [td]Rear Cannon Battery [5][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [td]Point Def Turret (x2) [4, 5][/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [/table] [table] [tr][th]Weapon[/th][th] Position [/th][th]Type[/th][th]Damage[/th][th] Range[/th][th]Cost/Ammo[/th] [th]Special[/th] [/tr] [tr][td]Missiles[/td][td] Stern [4,5][/td][td] Explo [/td][td]3d6[/td][td]20 [L][/td][td]50 each[/td][td]Twin[/td][/tr] [tr][td]PD Turrets[/td][td]Bow, M Deck, W Deck[/td][td] Energy[/td][td] 1d4[/td][td] 5 [/td][td] 1PP[/td][td]Twin, Burst, Impale[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Main batteries [/td][td]Wpn Deck, Bow [/td][td]Energy [/td][td]2d10 [/td][td]15 [L] [/td][td]12 PP[/td][td]Twin, Impale[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Motion Wave Gun[/td][td]Stern [/td][td]Energy [/td][td]Automatic kill [/td][td]30 [XL] [/td][td]600 PP[/td][td][/td][/tr] [/table] Note: Losing one auxiliary engine exhaust port will not block the spaceship, but will slow it down and subtract -20% from the helmsman Pilot (Spaceship) skill. Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunkape Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If you're not interest in big space battles, which yes, space opera's have lots of, you could just not deal with space craft, treat them as a method of getting from one place to another without worrying about activities between the ships. Also you could look at the original Traveller rules, Rules Wiki. They had a very comprehensive ship building system. There is a recent versions of the rules out there, but I haven't seen the ship building part so I'm not sure it's quality. Or you could go with something along the lines of what Rosen posted. Quote Skunk - 285/420 BRP book You wanna be alright you gotta walk tall Long Beach Dub Allstars & Black Eyed Peas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORtrail Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Back in the day when I ran a Prime Directive: The Star Fleet Universe Role-playing Game, I just created a quick Starship Tracker sheet and starship combat system. I gave each ship a Hit Point rating, armor in the form of energy shields rated from 3-6 pts, weapons that ranged from 1D4 on up to 1D10 for a photon torpedo. There was a hit location chart roll for each point of damage that got through (which covered each major part of the ship ('Structural damage' as the most common and 'Bridge' as the most dangerous). Characters made 'Pilot' rolls to try and evade attacks, 'Weapon System' to hit, and engineering rolls to fix damaged systems. Most battles ended with the enemy ship's warp engines damaged and hence no power to their shields and weapons. Or on a bridge hit have them roll a Luck save to avoid the panel blowing up in your face. That never gets old. As long as players are rolling dice and feeling in control of a starship the details of the ship combat system matter much less. YMMV (Your Mileage May Very) of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentorange Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 After my 10+ years pendragon campaign ended due to the characters being lost with my car, I have been considering starting a Space opera Campaign. I want to use the old ICE SM2 setting for it but using BRB as the system. I am however unsure as to how I should deal with spacecraft. Has anyone here done a space opera campaign with BRP? Tips, tricks, pitfalls? I'm just curious, didn't the players have copies of their character sheets ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) but I'd take a look at GURPS Space 4th Edition, which contains much useful information that, while biased towards its own game system, can be adapted for use with other rules. . I wouldn't recommend GURPS Space 4th edition. Unless you're into lots of superfluous detail on planetary systems, and astronomy. If you want a less detailed, more space operaish feel, go with GURPS Space first edition. It has more about starship construction and less detail on planetary system generation. I would also recommend Worlds Beyond RPG if you can find a copy, which is a BRP variant space opera setting, which is a bit like Traveller. I'm running it at the moment, using the BRP rules. And there is a Traveller scenario converted for BRP here: http://seegras.discordia.ch/Roleplay/Traveller/Adventures/TheAlgol.txt And the Traveller BRP conversion rules are here: http://www.basicrps.com/links/stefan/brp.html And another thing, don't give your player's characters antimatter grenades unless you like having a good laugh at their expense! Edited November 12, 2012 by Conrad Quote http://www.basicrps.com/core/BRP_quick_start.pdf A sense of humour and an imagination go a long way in roleplaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I just finished a 2300AD mini campaign that used the excellent conversion avaialble in the downloads section here and the BGB (plus my extensive library)... Pick a set of ship rules you like from any SF RPG and plug them in - it's what I usually do. The only tricky thing is getting people to wrap their heads round the differences between SF and fantasy - unless you are doing really OTT tech, for all the technobabble etc, an SF setting needs to feel different to a fantasy setting, but it's far to easy to be hadnwavy and imprecise with stuff such that it ends up feeling like fantasy / magic with weak and thin SF trappings. Also, warfare / combat are very different with high tech weapons and players need to have grasped that or they can get caught out... If you can track down copies of Other Suns, Worlds Beyond, Ring World or Future World they'll all help to varying degrees. I personally adapt the planets and ships system from Space Opera by FGU, as they are fun and playable and without being math / science heavy give the right feel. Cheers, Nick Edited November 12, 2012 by NickMiddleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) If you can track down copies of Future World they'll all help to varying degrees. Cheers, Nick Future world is part of the Worlds of Wonder RPG. Here is a link: http://basicrps.narod.ru/index-wow.html Edited November 12, 2012 by Conrad Quote http://www.basicrps.com/core/BRP_quick_start.pdf A sense of humour and an imagination go a long way in roleplaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus1966 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 It's a matter of personal taste, of course, but personally I like to make sure I get some of the science right in an SF scenario or setting. I wouldn't recommend GURPS Space as a be-all-and-end-all one-stop-shop for developing a campaign, but as a cherry-pickable source for ideas its rather nice in my opinion. Quote No power in the 'Verse can stop me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seneschal Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm in to free and easy. Although I love the Traveller star ship rules (best ever written in my opinion), they aren't either. However, Legends of Time and Space (www.darkcitygames.com) includes a very basic set of ship combat rules in its free downloadable sample scenario. Another free and easy: Mini Six (AntiPaladin Games) includes vehicle rules including star ships AND a pre-done space opera setting in the fan submissions area (done by myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 BTRC has SLAG! a generic space combat game. BTRC products are pretty techie (CORPS, EABA, GUNS, GUNS, GUNS) so should provide plenty of detail and tweakability and the pdf is only $5.50. I picked up a copy a few years back and it looks workable, but never actually got around to using it. Slag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonewt Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Mekton Empire might also be what you want. And it will also work with and compliment BRP Mecha quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 BTRC has SLAG! a generic space combat game. BTRC products are pretty techie (CORPS, EABA, GUNS, GUNS, GUNS) so should provide plenty of detail and tweakability and the pdf is only $5.50. I picked up a copy a few years back and it looks workable, but never actually got around to using it. Slag! I use EABA, expecially Stuff! a lot. It does a lot of design things well. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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