maxtillberg Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The third edition of the swedish BRP, Drakar och Demoner from 1987, is reprinted in a new Kickstarter campaign at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1256540796/drakar-och-demoner?ref=discovery There might be some changes in the rules and new art but hopefully it will still be close to the original. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Green Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm intrigued. I've always heard good things about this, but don't speak Swedish.And it is surprising to see an old Stormbringer cover in a different context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threedeesix Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Damn, I wish they had a stretch goal for an English translation. I bet they would easily reach it just with the members this forum alone.Rod 2 Quote Join my Mythras/RuneQuest 6: Classic Fantasy Yahoo Group at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RQCF/info "D100 - Exactly 5 times better than D20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vile Traveller Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 But isn't this edition already completely different to BRP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threedeesix Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'm honestly not sure. Maybe if there is a character sheet we could know from the layout. Quote Join my Mythras/RuneQuest 6: Classic Fantasy Yahoo Group at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RQCF/info "D100 - Exactly 5 times better than D20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seneschal Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Love the warrior duck illustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Wiki reckons the 3rd edition was when the rules started to diverge from BRP, but is unclear as to whether that's 1985 or later...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakar_och_DemonerNick Edited October 2, 2015 by NickMiddleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Green Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Damn, I wish they had a stretch goal for an English translation. I bet they would easily reach it just with the members this forum alone.RodI concur. An English-language edition stretch goal would absolutely get me to pledge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vile Traveller Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes, they clearly need to do an English version, if only so that we can update Wikipedia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorpa Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wiki reckons the 3rd edition was when the rules started to diverge from BRP, but is unclear as to whether that's 1985 or later...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakar_och_DemonerNick No the three first editions where basically the same. This fourth printing is still the same as the ones before except with errata and some new artwork. The divergence came with the Expert rules that came -85. The Expert box where an optional add on that changed it from percentile dice to a d20 dice, tons of new skills and a hit location system similar to the one in RQ but much simpler. But it wasn't until -91 they incorporated the Expert rules and Core rules to each other. The core DoD box stayed the same until -91 and is still basically a translation of BRP with the Magic World booklet added. This was what I was hoping that the MW from Chaosium would have turned out.But it is interesting to see how Chaosium is sort of putting BRP/MW on the backburner and Riotmind instead trying to kickstart it and bring it back to its greatness (at least in Sweden). Maybe they should collaborate and pass the torch to Riotminds so they also could do and English version. As I swede I have of course already thrown in 600kr (ca $71-72) in the backing for this since it is such a huge part of my childhood and now it is time to introduce it to a new generation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vile Traveller Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Interesting, WotC trying to recapture the old days with D&D 5E and now Riotminds doing something similar with DoD. New is not always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarence Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes, this is very much BRP! And it is THE roleplaying game in Sweden, much more popular than Dungeons & Dragons have ever been here. I pulled down my Drakar och Demoner box from 1984, essentially the same version they are relaunching now, and at 68 pages they have both monsters (12 pages), general advice (14 pages) and magic (9 pages)! We're awfully close to the page count of BRP Essentials in other words. Does it work? Very much so. It was the only game I played for several years. In 1987, when they switched to d20s with the Expert box, I had taken the RQ route instead for more detailed rules. 1 Quote FrostByte Books M–SPACE d100 Roleplaying in the Far Future Odd Soot Science Fiction Mystery in the 1920s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtillberg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 If you are interested in the old edition of Drakar och Demoner you can download them for free at http://www.riotminds.se/spelen/tiden-innan-trudvang/ Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threedeesix Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 If you are interested in the old edition of Drakar och Demoner you can download them for free at http://www.riotminds.se/spelen/tiden-innan-trudvang/ MaxAwesome, thanks! Downloaded them all. Now I must learn Swedish. Quote Join my Mythras/RuneQuest 6: Classic Fantasy Yahoo Group at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RQCF/info "D100 - Exactly 5 times better than D20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Yep, and I will need to back this project as well, my poor wallet! Between Revolution andJunior thought that I should go with the Black t-shirt... Edited October 3, 2015 by muminalver missed an L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchroDingerzat Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 How was the new version in the end? Have Riotminds hinted at any English version yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugen Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 10/2/2015 at 1:37 PM, Vile said: Interesting, WotC trying to recapture the old days with D&D 5E and now Riotminds doing something similar with DoD. New is not always better. Or Chaosium using RQ2 as a base for RQG (though I think it's not a good example). However, no matter what people say about D&D5 "recapturing the old days", the rules inside were truly only influenced by WotC-era editions of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethstrok9 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Wow, someone commented on one of my YT videos, telling me about one of their favorite RPGs, then I see this thread... Wish it had an English translation. Still, awesome they're reprinting it! Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 5:39 PM, SchroDingerzat said: How was the new version in the end? Have Riotminds hinted at any English version yet? Horrible, it was horrible... They promised an " refreshed reprint, with new art" did something else.. and on top of that it did not feel well thought or playtested... Had lot of errors, descriptions where missing.... But one of the original authors have written Hjältarnas tid, and that one is good... Good beginners game and solid BRP like rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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