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Who is Kallyr's son?

Honestly, I didn't understand that map at all. It showed a lay-out of a village that was completely different from Apple Lane and laid out 5 tenant farms when the book clearly indicated that there were 25. It is a good map, useful for a village, but I couldn't understand how it related to the official maps, pictures, and descriptions of Apple Lane.

I use the road that goes off to the north as the road to Swanton and Runegate and the road leading west as a herding trail that runs down to Black Spear and Clearwine. Or either could just lead to more of the orchard tenant farms to the north and west.

Was the wyter present when your players arrived or is it something they put in place? I'd be interested in any details that you can provide on it. I've been considering how my players might find a wyter for Apple Lane, since in my game there isn't one there yet.

My players are enjoying the opportunity to restore Apple Lane to its former glory!

In another thread, Richard clarifies from the upcoming cults book that Babeester Gor initiates cannot marry but are not required to be celibate, as they can have children (which they give away). What other cults DO require initiates or priests to not marry? Which ones require celibacy? The only ones I see in RQG are Maran Gor G-T must not marry and Priestesses must be celibate (not including geases and restrictions on who one can marry). But over the years I've seen interpretations that include some kinds of marriage or sex restrictions for several cults including Chalana Arroy, Humakt, Babeester Gor, Lhankor Mhy, some of the Seven Mothers, etc.

And what does Samastina owe Cragspider for this great service?

Huh, I hadn't noticed that. Interesting! I'm sure it is an RP thing, she obviously has some deception in her! Probably her Taraling upbringing, the bastards! 🙂

I meant Orgorvale the Goddess and not Orgorvale the Queen would be a contemporary of Tarndisi. Her apotheosis would be pre-Tarndisi but she was worshipped in the area until suppressed by the EWF. The relatively frequent mentions of Ulanin in various sources compared to the mentions of Orgorvale were telling. I see her as taking the Ernalda role to Ulanin's Orlanth, while he was out being the hero she was at home ruling her realm. I reworked her from what is in GA to make her more of an Earth goddess than a purely ancestor god and gave her new cult Summon Household Guardian and the Manage Household skill. I also read somewhere that her realm was associated with peace and peace-keeping, which goes well with that and some other things that are happening in my campaign.

Yes, I considered doing 2 adventures/season but I didn't like what that would do with training time, travel, etc. But I can certainly see how it would work well. I only allow rune point regains on seasonal holy days and Sacred Time. Allowing it to happen on associated cult days seemed like it would cause too many problems.

When I said Sacred time 1627, I meant between 1627 and 1628. I consider Sacred Time to be the last two weeks of the year as it has always appeared at the end of calendars that I've seen.

I don't think they would be obliged, but they might do it. It is tough to keep a secret, especially when it is only known to a couple of thousand people! So you could expect to see lots of interesting cult lore in a large library (and information on secret clan and tribal rituals, etc.). That said, it would all be at least second hand and coming from lesser cult figures, so I wouldn't expect any of it to be 100% accurate. There would be clues, contradictory information, inferences, and just plain wrong guesses! So there wouldn't be enough information to duplicate an important heroquest, but there might be enough to mess one up!

So I've gotten this mostly figured out. Most of the ghosts are servants, handmaids, and guards. There are a couple of priestesses and one later ruler. There are also 3 "Other" whose remains were put in the place by someone later for who knows what reason. I want at least one of the three to be a likely enemy, one to be a potential ally, and then perhaps one that is completely out of left field. Ideas in addition to these much appreciated: An Orlanth Dragon Priest that was put in there during the EWF/Yerezum Storn's time. A chaotic, snuck in there while both the dragon and Orgorvale were asleep. Would Orgorvale be able to detect that presence after awakening? A non-human. Aldryami, Mostali, Uz, etc. Even from an extinct race, such as a Gold Wheel Dancer. A hero from the distant past. Rastalulf, perhaps?

Tarndisi would have been a contemporary of Orgorvale before her apotheosis, most definitely. One thing that I'm doing that has worked out very well for me is to spread out the post-Dragonrise story. Like you I wanted the players to be involved with the incredible course of events that occurs over the 3 years after that, but to do so they would have had to be doing almost nothing but that and I wanted them to also do cool things like you are suggesting. So my players freed Orgorvale at the very end of Storm 1626. Kallyr will go on her LBQ in Sacred Time 1627. Things will progress from there. This pace has allowed the players to get their feet under them, develop relationships with each other and NPCs, choose some sides in the conflicts to come, etc. So my advice is to go with your quest (I'm totally going to be stealing that, btw) and put Kallyr's LBQ off a year. There is the chance that the canon gods will hit you with a lightning bolt, but it's remote! 🙂 In my game, Leika and Kallyr are competing for Orgorvale's attention. My PCs are quite beholden to Leika at this point and so she was the first to find out and immediately moved to capitalize on it. She gave the PC "Priest" 4 hides to support the fledgling cult. She used her influence to drum up worshippers and established a shrine in Clearwine, which is on the site of Orgorvale's former seat of power. When Kallyr dies, she will seek Orgorvale's endorsement in her attempts to become the next Prince. Between this and the fact that she was the one that took command and routed the Lunars at the Battle of the Princes when Kallyr fell, she (probably mistakenly) thinks she has a good chance. I also took a page out of the JC's In a Merry Green Vale and the Tusk Riders that attacked Apple Lane were only part of the group that is hold up in Pig Hollow with Redeye, who are led by a Rune Lord. So lots of potential still there.

The Guide to Glorantha? The 2-volume coffee table books?

Unless you go with the predestined line, you are off the grid. The only question is how far. But if your players know the story then best to get off early and often!

As far as I can see, it only says that he left bound for Nochet. That is a very difficult route in 1621 for someone that is wanted by high level lunars and I'm putting forward the possibility that things went other than planned. But the players are actually more interested in finding Piku or Wakapo as they would like to have the attraction of a blacksmith (not just a redsmith) and they correctly figure that someone with ties to the village are their only hope of bringing in someone with that rare skill set. I have a couple of ideas but greatly appreciate the creative juices of this forum!

Working as intended...

One problem with this is that I now have Nirvana stuck in my head... The world is full of magic. Little prayers and signs to a variety of deities are made every day, some with and some without tangible results. Every hovel and field is inhabited by spirits, helpful and otherwise, who must be appeased. Many of these can work and act like the kind of cantrips that Shiningbrow is suggesting. Most kids would be helping their parents out in their professions, household, farms, etc. before age 10. Until very, very recently that was their school. Teaching them a spell that is helpful for their work could make sense. Healing, slow, ignite, extinguish, repair, glue, farsee, silence, or even strength could be useful for particular chores.

My players are wanting to find Gringle and/or Piku (or Piku's son Wakapo) as they continue to put Apple Lane back together post-Dragonrise. I'm interested in theories as to where each ended up. By my reckoning, they all left together in 1621 headed to Clearwine through Black Spear and then South from there. Gringle was on record as heading for Nochet while it was unclear where Piku's final destination would be (even to him). As Whitewall was still under siege and Gringle needed to avoid Lunar troops to the extent possible, it seems most likely that they would have traveled by river instead of the main road. The Lunars had also infiltrated Esrolia and Red Earth was in control of Nochet until the Civil War the following year. So they could have ended up altering their course along the way and, as far as I'm concerned, could have ended up anywhere from Wintertop to Karse to Esrolia to the Grazelands (voluntarily or as captives)! Interesting theories as to where they are and what they have been doing are most welcome, whether they are thriving, struggling, dead, captive, or whatever!

So this is replacing the previous canon in the Yelmalio CoP write-up? There Yelmalio was clearly in opposition to Orlanth and the Sun Dome Temple were leading the anti-EWF forces.

The normal demographics are skewed in 1625 in Sartar. The Great Winter affected elders more than younger people (in many cases by choice), many adults perished in various battles, and after the Great Winter couples were encouraged to have children to begin replenishing the clans, so there are a lot more infants and toddlers than usual. If you go with the canon, then the harvest problems after Kallyr's failed heroquest and Argrath's wars will continue to have an effect.

Thanks for finding these! I think the ZZ entry should be 271-272.

I'm confused. I haven't checked all of these but the ones I have checked are all already in the printed and pdf versions that I bought almost a year ago.

That is what I'm thinking. And hopefully they waited until they died a natural death...