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My understanding, Vivamort is about personally becoming a vampire, Gark just wants to turn everyone *else* into zombies - Gark priests are usually living people.

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54 minutes ago, Manu said:

Vivamort has the rune of Darkness and Undead. Gark should have the same, no? Does Gark has the rune of Chaos?

Most sources I find say Harmony + Chaos for Gark the Calm.

Honestly no idea why Gark zombies are Chaos and ZZ zombies aren't.

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Vivamort has the runes of Chaos, Darkness, and Undead.

Gark has the runes of Chaos, Stasis, and Undead. 

There are lots of ways to animate the dead. Vivamort's and Gark's are chaotic, ZZ is not. There are also lots of ways to kill people - the Crimson Bat's methods are chaotic, Humakt and Zoran Zoran's are not.

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4 minutes ago, Jeff said:

Vivamort has the runes of Chaos, Darkness, and Undead.

Gark has the runes of Chaos, Stasis, and Undead.

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36 minutes ago, Jeff said:

Vivamort has the runes of Chaos, Darkness, and Undead.

Gark has the runes of Chaos, Stasis, and Undead. 

There are lots of ways to animate the dead. Vivamort's and Gark's are chaotic, ZZ is not. There are also lots of ways to kill people - the Crimson Bat's methods are chaotic, Humakt and Zoran Zoran's are not.

The undead around Nochet and in Necropolis aren't Chaotic either, from what I gather, just to add to the examples.

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47 minutes ago, Sir_Godspeed said:

The undead around Nochet and in Necropolis aren't Chaotic either, from what I gather, just to add to the examples.

Those aren't usually undead. While the Esrolian dead are ambulatory on what is effectively Ancestor Day, that's just taking a dead body (or the idea of it) for a walk. The rest of the time these dead spend on their side of the veil.

The dead ones from Necropolis are a lot less restful than the denizens of the Antones Estates outside of Nochet (those outside the Blackmaw, at least). These dead were more or less imprisoned by damming up the river so it formed a lake around the Necropolis, preventing them from roaming the land and causing trouble.

The dead in the lands of the Heortlings appear to have been a lot less trouble in the Silver Age than those of Esrolia, even though the living among the Heortlings would have been as outnumbered by their dead as the Esrolians. Something to do with King Heort being a shaman?

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In my Glorantha, I normally have the following.

Vivamort is the God of Vampires, he is the First Vampire, created to heal a wound from the Devil and cursed by the same action. he was involved in causing Death to enter the world, as he was tricked into letting Eurmal steal it. He creates vampires and his worshippers create vampires.

Gark the Calm is a god of Zombies, not the only one. However, his is a cult of silent contemplation, or it can be. Anyone dying in a Gark the Calm temple comes back as a Zombie, this is automatic for Gark worshippers and not always automatic for non-worshippers. some worshippers of Gark the Calm sit around meditating in circles, where they deny themselves food and drink, sometimes sealing themselves in, so they run out of air, when they die they immediately awaken as zombies and continue their eternal meditation. Gark's zombies are normally harmless, unless disturbed or commanded by someone who has a Command/Control Zombie spell. In my Glorantha, Gark has a Command Zombie Horde spell that causes the mass of Zombies to obey simple commands.

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