M Helsdon Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Kaxtor is a fairly localised hero-god who seems to have had avatars throughout history. Information on him is hard to find. Perhaps his Runes would be Law, Harmony, and perhaps Man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Kaxtor's priests are described as asectic wizards (Guide p361) so Truth (think Yelmalio and Humakt) seem you me to be appropriate. As for the larger runes, he is a teacher of religious truths rather than a prominent hero so one rune is all that's needed to describe him. IMO he can be followed with the faiths of Lhankor Mhy, the Arkati and even the Rokari. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, metcalph said: Kaxtor's priests are described as asectic wizards (Guide p361) so Truth (think Yelmalio and Humakt) seem you me to be appropriate. As for the larger runes, he is a teacher of religious truths rather than a prominent hero so one rune is all that's needed to describe him. IMO he can be followed with the faiths of Lhankor Mhy, the Arkati and even the Rokari. Interesting. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, M Helsdon said: Kaxtor is a fairly localised hero-god who seems to have had avatars throughout history. Information on him is hard to find. Perhaps his Runes would be Law, Harmony, and perhaps Man? As a local hero, he's likely worshiped as a hero cult of larger cults. Hero cults tend to give one magic. But also as he has his own temple, he's effectively the city god as well. Given he's the son of Esrola and Fodalor (champion of the Kingdom of Herolal), he's a hero cult of Esrola and whoever Fodalor worshipped. Given @metcalph's reference to the now asectic wizards in the Guide. I'd suggest that Fodalor was a sorceror-warrior. In Greg's notes, A General History of the Ernaldi, Fodalor quests and obtains the Sword of Wesmal, and in the Holy Country campaign, Kaxtorplos is called the holy land of Kaxtor, while Kaxtor himself is called the Unborn and Mouth of the Goddess. Putting this altogether, I'd say that as the city god, Man & Earth, as a Hero of Esrola, Earth and as a warrior-sorcereor, morphing into asectic wizards who teach a limited range of spells that hold off chaos. As a Hero of Arkat, he wields the Sword of Wesmal (likely something to do with Wesluk) and the sword is in the temple, and knows a specialist anti-chaos magic (personally I'd put him in the sword for a full on possession avatar). 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, David Scott said: In Greg's notes, A General History of the Ernaldi, Fodalor quests and obtains the Sword of Wesmal, and in the Holy Country campaign, Kaxtorplos is called the holy land of Kaxtor, while Kaxtor himself is called the Unborn and Mouth of the Goddess. Putting this altogether, I'd say that as the city god, Man & Earth, as a Hero of Esrola, Earth and as a warrior-sorcereor, morphing into asectic wizards who teach a limited range of spells that hold off chaos. As a Hero of Arkat, he wields the Sword of Wesmal (likely something to do with Wesluk) and the sword is in the temple, and knows a specialist anti-chaos magic (personally I'd put him in the sword for a full on possession avatar). Very useful. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just found a source by Greg suggesting Kaxtor (and his city) have been around since the Great Darkness, with a suggestion that he reincarnates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 There was quite a lot of discussion around Kaxtor for the Maniria project by another user here, apologies for not remembering who it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sir_Godspeed said: There was quite a lot of discussion around Kaxtor for the Maniria project by another user here, apologies for not remembering who it was. I'm interested in primary sources so that I make my own mistakes. Edited January 2, 2022 by M Helsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr0p0s Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 1:55 PM, David Scott said: In Greg's notes, A General History of the Ernaldi, Fodalor quests and obtains the Sword of Wesmal, and in the Holy Country campaign, Kaxtorplos is called the holy land of Kaxtor, while Kaxtor himself is called the Unborn and Mouth of the Goddess. Where are these reference works found? Sound interesting and would be worth a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, kr0p0s said: Where are these reference works found? Sound interesting and would be worth a read. Roots of Glorantha (2007, 2015) Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, David Scott said: Roots of Glorantha (2007, 2015) Bitterly regret not obtaining those, but couldn't afford them at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr0p0s Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 They'd sell like hot cakes as PDFs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, kr0p0s said: They'd sell like hot cakes as PDFs... Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr0p0s Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Scott said: I feel partly assuaged, but still, Knowledge is Knowledge... Edited January 2, 2022 by kr0p0s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr0p0s Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, M Helsdon said: Just found a source by Greg suggesting Kaxtor (and his city) have been around since the Great Darkness, with a suggestion that he reincarnates. Kaxtorplose must have been one of the original forts built for the defense of the people. There may have been a band of survivors still holding out at The Dawn. Would Kaxtor reincarnate through his direct descendents, or by selection of suitable candidates? Edit: he is mentioned in the past tense in GtG, maybe he only reincarnates in times of emergency in defense of his city? Edited January 2, 2022 by kr0p0s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, M Helsdon said: I'm interested in primary sources so that I make my own mistakes. I realize, but there was an ongoing look for primary surces there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, kr0p0s said: Edit: he is mentioned in the past tense in GtG, maybe he only reincarnates in times of emergency in defense of his city? That's my assumption. 1 hour ago, Sir_Godspeed said: I realize, but there was an ongoing look for primary surces there too. Yes, I have looked through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 6:31 AM, kr0p0s said: They'd sell like hot cakes as PDFs... Unfortunately, we have no plans to sell them as PDFs. Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A well curated luxury edition in real leather (or a vegan substitute of similar haptic and status) with commentary and comparison to how the canon in the Guide to Glorantha came to be would be appreciated, too. (It's my birthday, so I am entitled to make a wish...) 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick Meints said: Unfortunately, we have no plans to sell them as PDFs. 9 minutes ago, Joerg said: A well curated luxury edition in real leather (or a vegan substitute of similar haptic and status) with commentary and comparison to how the canon in the Guide to Glorantha came to be would be appreciated, too. (It's my birthday, so I am entitled to make a wish...) So happy birthday to you! And I would support that wish! So even if there are no plans to sell these books (The Roots of Glorantha tomes and the GreGanth Atlas) as PDFs, I would like to hear, if there is a chance for selling them in printed form again ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Oracle said: So happy birthday to you! And I would support that wish! So even if there are no plans to sell these books (The Roots of Glorantha tomes and the GreGanth Atlas) as PDFs, I would like to hear, if there is a chance for selling them in printed form again ... There is a chance that we could sell a few more, but when we have been selling these books at $3000 a set, we aren't planning on selling the 6 books at $50 each. Please note, this is honoring the author's (Greg's) firm and long standing desire. Greg could have sold these books at $25 each, but he didn't want to do that. He passed on selling them like his unfinished works books (at $25 each) for about two decades. He finally sold the first series of 12 or so books in 2007 in extremely limited quantities for about $250 each. He let us sell a repacked 6 volume set of them for $3000, because that was the approximate total price of them previously. Note: Greg lived on a very low income for quite a few years, and even that didn't motivate them to publish these books at lower prices, even when he really could have used the money. The good news is that the good material they contain often ended up in the Guide to Glorantha, the Gloranthan Sourcebook, and forthcoming RQG books as applicable. As and when Western material gets published this will be even more true, as much of these Roots of Glorantha books involve Malkioni related info. Edited January 3, 2022 by Rick Meints 1 2 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Joerg said: A well curated luxury edition in real leather (or a vegan substitute of similar haptic and status) with commentary and comparison to how the canon in the Guide to Glorantha came to be would be appreciated, too. (It's my birthday, so I am entitled to make a wish...) My birthday today as well... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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