M Helsdon Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, svensson said: Please let me know when you're done re-proofing. I'd like to order the POD version, but there's no sense in ordering if it needs to be corrected. I intend to 'finish' in the next week or two. There will always be typos, especially in a book of this size, but it is nearing the '95% complete' stage where the last 5% is almost impossible to finish, as you enter the realms of diminishing returns for effort expended. Then the generation of a POD can commence! Laughs manically and runs off into the distance gibbering and meeping. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 10 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: ... Laughs manically and runs off into the distance gibbering and meeping. NOT SO FAST, ME BOY-O! You've got that poster version of that 2-page Mirrorsea spread, yet to produce... The shackles stay on, and fastened to your desk. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 7 minutes ago, g33k said: NOT SO FAST, ME BOY-O! You've got that poster version of that 2-page Mirrorsea spread, yet to produce... That's reliant upon sales. I have a number in mind, and when that is reached, I will generate the poster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: ... I have a number in mind ... Drop us a hint, then? Are we dozens away? Hundreds? A few score? Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, g33k said: Are we dozens away? Hundreds? A few score? 15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, M Helsdon said: That's reliant upon sales. I have a number in mind, and when that is reached, I will generate the poster. Good way to do it! Thanks for the thoughts + suggestions on the Wolf Pirates. Much appreciated! Will continue to chew on them as we make the crew community. 1 Quote Jonstown Compendium author. Find my publications here. Disclaimer: affiliate link. Social Media: Facebook Patreon Twitter Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 (edited) Purely for my own amusement, I've created this map based on maps shared on the Well of Daliath by Jeff. The island names may no longer be current canon, as some of the maps looked to be fairly old, but this may be useful for anyone travelling across Choralinthor Bay. The map is from the Argan Argar Atlas, with additions. Edited April 20 by M Helsdon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 (edited) Ships & Shores V18 just uploaded to DriveThru. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/452062/ships-shores-of-southern-genertela Amazons attempting to board a ship - detail of a picture by Mark Smylie Edited April 28 by M Helsdon 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 On 4/15/2024 at 10:58 PM, jajagappa said: So the call to go on the Circumnavigation, support Harrek, and gain new sources of loot, treasure, and magic now has great appeal. Absolutely. I'd buy and run that in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 As Ships & Shores has achieved a significant number of sales, as promised, a larger version of Mark Smylie's magnificent panorama of the Mirrorsea, Choralinthor Bay has been uploaded, and is available among the files. This version does not include the numbers for locations. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/452062/ships-shores-of-southern-genertela 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 Work on the POD is underway. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 (edited) The files now await approval from DriveThru RPG and Lightning Source. Edited May 12 by M Helsdon 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Test prints ordered.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrkvil Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Is there a rough estimate for POD prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 9 hours ago, Myrkvil said: Is there a rough estimate for POD prices? I haven't decided yet - the PDF is very cheap, I'm told, for its page count and content. It will never recoup the cost of the art, which was a known risk, as the book is niche and things outside the core area of Dragon Pass amd Prax mostly don't sell very well. It's a big book, so the base printing cost isn't cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaredeal Sten Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 13 hours ago, M Helsdon said: ......It will never recoup the cost of the art, which was a known risk, as ..... It's a big book, so the base printing cost isn't cheap. "Never" seems to me to be an unreasonably long payback time. What do you need to charge to break even if it sells 250 POD copies plus 500 PDF? Don't tell me, just think about it. 🙂 🤥 Edited May 15 by Squaredeal Sten Playing with emojis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 7 hours ago, Squaredeal Sten said: "Never" seems to me to be an unreasonably long payback time. What do you need to charge to break even if it sells 250 POD copies plus 500 PDF? Don't tell me, just think about it. 🙂 🤥 Increasing the cost would reduce sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 39 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Increasing the cost would reduce sales. That is the dilemma everyone has that want´s to sell something: Higher price = higher margin, but most likely lesser number of sales Moderate price = lower margin, but most likely higher number of sales Do you see your product as a de luxe item, on the higher end of the price range, which is intended to be for the "rich and powerful" (Rolls Roys)? Or do you see your product as an item that everyone that is interested in having one should be able to afford (Ford Model T)? It´s your choice to make (but IMHO the best way is to be somewhere in the middle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, AndreJarosch said: Do you see your product as a de luxe item, on the hig her end of the price range, which is intended to be for the "rich and powerful" (Rolls Roys)? Or do you see your product as an item that everyone that is interested in having one should be able to afford (Ford Model T)? It´s your choice to make (but IMHO the best way is to be somewhere in the middle). Until I see the test prints I can't really assess the look and feel of the book. It will probably be available as standard and premium. I don't have any control over the base price, and would like to at least maintain the existing margin. The PDF is very cheap considering the page count and art. The book hasn't sold well, but that's perhaps because it is niche and outside the core area of Dragon Pass and Prax, though if you intend playing in Esrolia, especially Nochet, or in Heortland, it would be very valuable. It also has excellent art by Katrin and Mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 15 hours ago, M Helsdon said: The book hasn't sold well The book is an Electrum best seller, which is doing very well. There are only just over 20 books that have reached Gold status. I think you have to judge by that, not based on Armies & Enemies, which was one of the first books available and has now been out for like 5 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 17 hours ago, M Helsdon said: ... The book hasn't sold well ... As Jaja says, it's selling quite well as JC titles go, and you can hardly consider AaEoDP a fair comparison with its' several years more cumulative sales... also, recall that you spent quite a long time prior to the JC release talking about the project and showing art, and generally creating quite a substantive appetite for the book, when it finally came out! Yes, there were also "teasers" & samples for SaSoSG... but not for the sustained duration that A&E had. Wait a couple more years before you write it off as a disappointment! Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 On 5/17/2024 at 1:53 AM, jajagappa said: The book is an Electrum best seller, which is doing very well. There are only just over 20 books that have reached Gold status. I think you have to judge by that, not based on Armies & Enemies, which was one of the first books available and has now been out for like 5 years. Yes, the market is now saturated with Jonstown and Chaosium products, which is a good thing for the hobby. When Armies came out there was very little available for people to buy. Armies achieved Gold fairly quickly, and has stood the test of time fairly well - there are only one or two things that are now contradicted by canon. On 5/17/2024 at 3:41 AM, g33k said: As Jaja says, it's selling quite well as JC titles go, and you can hardly consider AaEoDP a fair comparison with its' several years more cumulative sales... also, recall that you spent quite a long time prior to the JC release talking about the project and showing art, and generally creating quite a substantive appetite for the book, when it finally came out! Armies was the result of four or so years of work - Ships maybe three. I am now deliberating turning my current project into a 'part work' or one I gradually expand, with the first issue in six months or so.... As it expands the price will increase.... In many respects Jonstown creators work in something of a vacuum, and the only way to gauge impact is sales and reviews. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 Something is coming, but I don't know if it is the Standard or Premium print. Looks like it is shipping tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Tracking has just changed from 'creating a label' to 'on its way'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Pictures by Nick Brooke (my copies are somewhere in the UPS system). 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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