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Magic / Spells / Type of spells / p247 : Intx3 roll ...If the caster tries to -throw another spell -is attacked in spirit combat -takes physical or magical damages -has something unexpected happen. The caster must make a concentration roll (INTx3 as a percentage) or the effects of the spell cease... No you can't... because the spell parameters are touch and active; So the caster of the spell need to always touch the weapon for it to work AND concentrate to maintain it active. As a RQ3 player, The spell was pretty limitative in rq2 as you needed a focus on your sword to be able to use it. Now, You can only use it for yourself, and the spell is cancelled if you lost your weapon (touch) or concentrate on something else (horse ridding, using another spell or a bow). In some sense, this is more a berserk spell than a warrior spell. The 3D6 Fireblade damages are colossal if used on dagger and short sword but for a 4pts spell, I think that Truesword (Dx2) or even a bladesharp 4 (+20%, D+4) are a lot more usefull since you can "share" them and they are passive spell. Do not know but I stumbled on a funnier one : The Most STUPID thing about Fireblade is you CANNOT fight with it because as state in Magic / Spells / Type of spells (p247) : "Spell casters trying to maintain an active spell are limited to a movement rate of 4 meters per melee round and they can do no fighting." So if you see a fireblade, just walk because the fireblade user is limited at tremendous speed of 1,2km/h and they CAN'T fight... XD

hey Atgxtg ..... What's a FOURMS ??? I don't know what a fourms is But I disagree anyway ! ... I think we should just split RuneQuest threads and all these starwars-droids threads... because I know R2D2 but which episodes did you found theses RQ2, RQ3 HQ droids ??? Just trolling.... sorry XD

Hell no ! If it was useless, there wolud be no APP like a lot of games (L5R) Not Exact ! In Cthulhu v7, the APP is how you look and/or how your personality is ! Every single time you meet a NPC, the GM roll an (secret) test of APP or Credit to state if you're welcomed or if the NPC will just ignore you because he just can't stand you ! (Same mechanic as the charisma roll since v2). -In the worst case, a very bad first contact and he could become a major problem in the investigation. -In the best case, you could make a new contact / cultist (depending on which side your are) Hell Yes ! APP seems useless for a lot of players because it doesn't have any benefits in fights or secondary characteristics but it's due to how you play more than what the system let me do ! a lot of GM just follow the rules and if the rules doesn't permit one actions they ... 1/ ... will blindly tell you "it's not in the rules so I don't accept it". (God know, I hate this !!!) 2/ ... will create house-rules to fix the game and give players some "tools" (I used to do it a lot) 3/ ... will just follow one of the first and basic rule : IF there is not skill to solve a situation, choose the appropriate characteristic and make a roll (Now I prefer this easy-way solution) If the way you play don't involve any social interaction, you don't need APP but it's the your way of doing it ... Just for one time, change your scenario perspective and the utility of APP or any social skills will greatly change : as example, take "Masks of Nyarlathotep" scenario (NY / London / Paris) and change the approach of the local cult by infiltrating it with a 3-6 months... In most of Cthulhu's novels and Howard's Conan adventures, the side-of-the-moral hero fight an horror after discovering his flaw and/or doing a great ritual, but what if you use you charm to convince others people to do it for you : -You will lose less SAN as you don't confront yourself to the horror nor use any spell ! -You won't need to directly confront the horror, just the deaths of the people you manipulate -Some players will love to play the master-mind, a role usually restricted to NPC -All players that always do the same concepts (the texan pistolero or players who always maxes out Psychology, Listen and Spot Hidden ...) will have some new challenges and not the same variation of scenario... Playing on your charm / charisma by sending some cultists doing the dirty just job is immoral but it's not forbidden... and it's FUN XD Force you player do some coming-out : -Force them to buy high-class tuxedo to justify using their Credits skills of 75% instead of their crappy 45% APP ... -Make them stay out of all "You can buy a great protection relic in our next Eldrich's Society Auctions" unless they throw their old Indiana Jones's vest in the garbage dump... RPG can be an art like French Cooking WHEN Something seems useless ... it's because you haven't found a way to discover it's REAL FLAVOR ^_-

So, You want to know what are the core skills needed to an investigator ? First, I'll continue in the same way of the simple and excellent post of Mike M : Most Cthulhu's scenario follow the very same development which is Discovering the myth - Investigating on its nature - Meeting the minions - Confronting the creature like in the Abomination of Dunwich or the Haunted House Scenario. Most Core skills will depend on the Master Approach of the Myth n' the Scenario orientation. In most scenario, each steps will need to interact with peoples or find some clues to have enough infos to counter the myth because no human can fight them head on. As often center on discovering-investigating, I ask my player to spend their skills points for : -The Two passive skills (roll on confrontation) : Spot Hidden or Listen, APP or Credit rating -One interrogation skill among Charm, Fast talk, Intimidate, Persuade -One Investigation skill among Library use, Law, Language (latin), History Apart from that, the others generals skills will vary from a gameplay to another... depending on how you usually confront the myth. It's up to the GM to tells players what are the essentials skills. Secondly, I don't like comments about how some (physical) characteristics are useless because : -WHEN an investigator doesn't have a skill, the master have to use/propose one Characteristics in exchange and adjust the difficulties (ex: Spot hidden or INT + 1Malus Dice / Charm or APP -1D / Psychology +1D or POW...). -They determine your skills (a pinkerton detective could start with 2x STR + 2x EDU %) as Mike M stated -They determine some sec. charc. like you Build ( a low build of -1 give you 1 dice malus in any hand to hand fight or give you a bonus to pass through a tiny windows...) -etc... To conclude Yep, Best comment of the Year ! It's up to the GM to tells players what are the essentials skills. If he don't want to ... the only core skills should be the Characteristics in an ideal play -still not at this level ^^;;- .

OH OH...The Migo, there is a lot of ways to cross their path (some hint in Maleus Monstrum). I personally play in 1920' but I will also try a bit of cthulhutech where humanity end in a World war with Migo (I love mecha and playing a Pacific RIM 2 style game should be fun...). How involving MIGO : -You go into the Antartic to explore an ancient place (Lovecraft novel with shoggoth, elder things and Migo: At the Mountains of Madness ) -There is a lot of antartican scenario- -Antartic II : Another strange place in Antartic where Migo are building "Ubbo sathla & Charon" (a Migo space n' time ship to conquer worlds) -Elder Thing Missions : Enemy of Migo, a surviving Elder Thing sends Investigators against Migo's followers (Migo enemies) -Stranges Murders : Dead Bodies were found and their brains were taken ... alive (MIGO Brain Cylinder) ...

As mvincent said Masks of Nyarlathotep is very adapted because it's world wide 1920's campaign all over the word (USA / London / Paris / Africa / China+Japan / Australia ). It's adapted to multiple table play because each table could send "telegram" to another team; The telegram could be some informations to share between each tables. The Dreamlands (https://www.chaosium.com/h-p-lovecrafts-dreamlands-pdf/) also offert great liberties in play for various type of plays n' settings. I've got a peculiar luck to have all dreamlands get re-edited in french deluxe box set (the images after). The very good thing is that dreamlands are not only another world but you can also use the door of dreams to travel through time and space. I had an excellent convention scenario in Scotland's V century but my players team was in 1920; with the help of the door to dreamlands, i was able to send them there... And after the recent Pacific RIM 2, I think I'll adapt a Cthulhutech quickstart scenario to send them in far future fighting Migos in giant mecha. With this you can fight Nyarlatothep in any location and time. You could also do Jumanji theme scenario or Doctor Who fighting The Great Intelligence (an avatar or Yog-Sothoth as state in http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Intelligence). French Dreamlands Deluxe Box http://www.sans-detour.com/shop/sans-detour/jeux-de-role/l-appel-de-cthulhu-7e-edition/256-les-contrees-du-reve.html

Oh oh, It's becoming more and more appealing There are a lot of books I prefer before GoG but the books I tend to use the most are the book of Magic, Gods of Glorantha and Elders Secrets (Mostali and Aldryami). Unlike some grognards, I really think that GoG is the very best book after RQG because the new Runes points rules make Divine Magic and Runes more important, more useful and easiest to recover. All of this make me perfectly agree with Gods of Glorantha being the next book out; I just hope there will be western and orientals cults Chaos cults are not essential to play but -if you want to make a party of rivals or even opposed cults, YOU NEED Chaos ! -if you want to create an Arkati, an Uroxi, or a Zorani player, YOU NEED Chaos ! -if you want deep play in glamour / pavis / prax YOU NEED Chaos ! Chaos can be everywhere, need for everything and be the opposing force of Everyone... if Greg Hate Mostali for them to be too much "themselves !", I Hate Chaos for the same reasons... too easy to play, it just change of masks but it's always the same at the core. In term of horrors, I prefer Cthulhu strangeness; in term of Glorantha third age ... Kingdom of Wars Violence, Dragon(ewt)s Strangeness or even Zorak Zoran Madness.

Little question to Jeff In Chaosium blog you said that "these are not final pages, just works-in-progress to show you the visual style of the book" and the choice of the border bother me a little ! It's not because I don't like it (the more I see it the greater I think it is) but having different border colour for each chapter will really be cool and visually ... helpful. I asking that because the french RQ3 was presented a bit like "King of Sartar" ... each chapter was a treated like book (Player / Master / Magic / Glorantha) with its own first cover... I understand how hellish will it be to create and make different layout for each chapter but when you said " this is a full color book with a lot of art. And I mean a LOT of art " How much FULL COLOR are you intend to pour into this ???

Elders races and West are my favorites ... I've seen enough about orlanthi, lunars and Kethaela; Even if sometimes I really rediscover that central Genertela is way more vast than what I think (like the Celestine arena funeral by Pecadordelapradera : https://pecadordelapradera.deviantart.com/art/Celestine-arena-funeral-614306997 Even if it was out-of-canon, I really like the illustration from the Book of Glorious Joy and in particular the "Doctor Strange" look of Gaiseron the Mystic... XD. Sometime, I dream to see one day an illustration of Faulani, the Blue Fur Minotaur's Magical Gardian of Loskalm. They are still some illustrations of west and elders races but I think a lot cool even if not really in the canon -Merlkir style for Glorantha are one of my favorites... ( https://merlkir.deviantart.com/art/GtG-11-Elves-447047123 ) -Speaking of West, I also really like Akeiron's illustration for RQ italian edition ( https://akeiron.deviantart.com/art/Common-Magic-184892676 ) -The Arthurian/Medieval Knight of Jonhodgson https://jonhodgson.deviantart.com/art/The-Book-of-Glorious-Joy-186584600

(1) No it slow down (Air rune Don't like Earth elements in it's domain) (2) Shooting at short range or from above (In their back between shoulders blades or On a castle wall in their head). This one was easy. (3) All wrong, Gravity is a force which create acceleration of the arrow... (Earth Rune create Force Rune Which Make Movement rune - from gata by umath to larnste) (4) Yep (5) Man ! it's COWS every praxian know this : Cows to measure your wealth, Cow to measure your sacrifice to the gods, cows to measure your greatness (aka weregeld), cows to measure length (elf bow's range are a hundred cows length, human's one only 80 cows length and Durulz are 10 cows only -yes I don't like them unless with some mustard and honey-)

Yep, but you need an A0 size book to print exact scaled illustration (as the archer seem to be is 20m tall) and I don't have enough place in my shelf Joke apart, the border is really beautiful, the text is clear (why the text in p235, column 2 is not justified ?) and the background with runes great ! (only the colours -yellow and green- still feel strange to me). Excellent Job Guys (thumbs up !)

To me, This often depend on your player experience in rpg... new role-players can start with defaults settings. PS : I ask for the Dragon Lord Gygax forgiveness in advance but Consider D&D players as newbies, whatever the numbers of years of experience they have ^^

I never used RQ2 rules but read them for improving RQ3 or understand the original rules... As we don't speak about Change of rules, My best to "simplify your life" advices For fight, don't Go in Melee straight. -First, Armed enemies don't appear from nowhere and describe them well in term of gloranthan lore : "Broo are vicious, they use ambush and contaminated weapons...." -Second, Let your adventurer the choice to fight or fly... and assume the consequence of their choice : "Broo try sometimes to NOT kill their enemies, they capture them for ..." -Third, If they see enemies from far, magicians and archers will progress more wisely. RQ2 is deadly but unlike a a lot of game, a wise plan can save you... skills are secondary For the Magic Part -Don't Mind POW economy in the 1-5 first scenario but give everyone an equitable chance to evolve POW or any other carac. at the end of a scenario. -Healing magic make Glorantha a bit more safer world and most creatures prefer ask for a wergeld and become richer than just killing (were- : man and -geld : gold). Don't kill you PC, make them poor or crippled ! (you won't have to remake their sheet and believe me .... after losing 2-3 pts of CON they will start to use their brain) -Don't mind the fact that they HP go down to zero or below, just tell them they aren't dead ... just dying (A lot of people can be reanimated after an heart arrest of 2min). You don't have to use resurrection magic for a less than 10min dead man. Make them panic, call for a healer/chaman/priest and spend their money like there is no tomorrow. Death is a gift for honourables heroes (As long as you need a PC, don't mind the rules... In Glorantha sometimes stranges things like "all people who died today, come back to life" happens)

You just gave the perfect counter-example of your theory AND the very reasons why all your example just cannot happens ! And I will explain you why : In RQ3 rules, IT IS WRITTEN : "Gamemasters generally allow experience checks whenever skills are successfully used in stressful situations. An attack against a helpless target is not a stressful situation and does not deserve an experience check." So, your example of a 100% attack skills is just not possible, YOU CANNOT progress to mastery levels being a coward without proper enemies parries or trying to kill you ! A thug get at least +25-35% to skill attack facing defenceless prey... I personally think he should never progress upper than 50%. Secondly, There did exist in history some martial arts which only focus in attacking and completely ignoring any aspect of defence, parrying or dodging. But it's more a philosophy choice from them; To be able to know how to attack without fail, you need to know how people can defend themselves. A lot of GM, as myself, choose to create a rule to reflect this logic ! but it's not in the rules...like a lot of thing Thirdly, in rq the main problem about skills percentiles is they don't mean anything... In later brp, chaosium did give a scaling of skills (like in Cthulhu v7 ). I personally really like Land of Ninja which clearly state that having 90% in a skill mean you are a True Master like Miyamoto Musashi, Sun Tzu, Guillaume Tell or Bruce Lee BUT In a RPG, most Big Bill fighting with full plates+mail and divine armor 5 will check their attacks skills against unarmored durulz with daggers... and they shouldn't progress against defenceless enemies.

XD MuaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! I really like your way of thinking but It's Impossible because : -FIRST, I abort "Perfection" ... because being perfect means you cannot make something better which is not fun, nor possible. -SECOND, My concept of perfection will not be for everyone. For example : RosenMcStern have create his own D100, even if it could be perfect for him it will never be for me. ;p -THIRD, You are in Runequest/Glorantha Forum.... We have all been raised by a Chaosium-ic Rule ! Your Game May Vary which mean everyone in this forum will never be perfectly agree on anything. AND As the Devil's Advocate, I will never admit Perfection !

1/ You didn't understand that in RQ3 SR is a Time value (of 1,2s). In these forum, I already explain why 1,2s instead of a simple second count : -First by having a 1SR equalling 1,2s permit to simply link Movement in combat to movement on a map as 1Pt of Movement = 1m per SR = 1 Km/h. All others systems need a table of conversion because converting from m/s to km/h give non-natural numbers. -Secondly, RQ3 is a more figurine based fighting systems. When you play in Monster Coliseum's Arena or with figurine, you can understand that the system is more fluid because there is a lot more movement and SR spend to displace your character from an enemy to another... In contradiction of most game where you can strike or be attacked by anyone in a melee despite their numbers or any logic regarding their respective positions. 2/ You second Idea of a "continuous fight" is really easy to implement without changing the whole system (I already model and tested it) : -First, you change from a linear 10SR round to a Circle of 50 SR (or less, but 30 at minimum); This way, you create a natural and easy to track table of actions for everyone fighter or magician with one marker by player. Everyone can see when the others will act and the master just play the clock. -Second, you need to change the declaration of action phase : Each player will have to choose his action as soon as he ended his own; And each player making a dodge or parry before his turn of action will have to shift his next action by one SR. -Third, you may need to add an "Resting and catching you breath" action of 3SR to be a bit more realist OR Use the Fatigue point rules by spending 1FP per actions, attack parry or dodge. After testing it, it can be pretty good but new problems appears: Fights are not faster, Players easily lose track of what is happening when multiples fights occurs, High-DEX-and-SIZ characters attacking every 3SR will break the game, ...

They are indeed very few reasons, mainly : -You cannot spend 1SR ! If your based SR is 10, whatever the reasons, you cannot attack the next turn -You just cannot move away from him ie you can only keep the distance as long as you can move but if your feet are stuck or you turn your back to a wall, a hole or a bigger danger... -You fight someone with a weapon as long as yours; So if you don't want him to be able to parry or dodge, you let him get close... 1 action for the two sides but he strike 1SR latter. Another a-bit-abuse-of-the-rule could be : You have a 2H spear (SR+1) and get attack by a two 1Handed-sword (SR+2) and let him come close... -In the new round, You declare your action after the other guys : I throw away my spear at the cost of 0SR and fight with my hands (SR+3) -The situation is reversed : You have the shorter weapon with 2 actions plus you strike first AND the others guys have only one action at SR+1 -Even if he do the same thing with his weapons, He still get a surprised modifier (SR+3); You and him have 1 action only but he have a SR+4 modifier (closing+surprised !)

Almost All Good ! In RQ3, When you are in a melee fight If you want to engage/disengage in close combat for the next round, you have to state in this round and spend 1SR in the next round ! 1/ The Rules state a longer weapon ! Which mean two-handed spear vs one-hand spear or One-hand spear vs Dagger... (only different SR weapons is needed) -The longer weapon lose one action (and SR advantage...read next line) -The shorter weapon will ALWAYS strike first whatever the SR is !!! If they both have equal length weapon, They both have only action a usual SR (with the 1SR for the player making the closing) 1-So Correct ! 2/ No. In one C.T, a 1-handed weapon can be used for attack or parry, 2-handed weapon for attack and parry... and TWO 1-Handed weapons for 2 attacks or 2 parries or one-of-each... 2-Not Correct 3/ No... They only have to disengage from close combat to melee combat but it's not explained, probably because : -Closing is a special tactic linked to an attack, which mean you have to do it each round (like a short distance charge ....) -You just have to spend at least 1SR to move from close combat to a melee distance (RQ3 is much like a figurine boardgames system) May be Correct

Personally, I really prefer the recent rocking Logo (up there)... The design is more modern, a better use of lightning and relief but there is still a "old school" feeling. In comparison, the new choosen one feel dull mainly because the blend of yellow-white to yellow combined with another yellow border is poor in term of contrast. The font use is too smooth for such colors choice which could be more effective with the font use for the sub-title... But if you tweak the colors, you found out that the problem is not necessarily the Fonts (Which I don't like) nor the simplicity of the design (I don't like it either). Not so bad with a Simple Color inverted wich create a darker borderline and a sunset type colour blend ! ... And With any other Colors... it's still OK...(I could even say it's great :p)

Top Recommendation : Monster Coliseum (fight) and Gods of Glorantha (magic) For most of books, it will vary from your game play : -Elder races : Lord of terror, haunted ruins, trolls gods and Elders secrets -Oriental and exotic places : Land of ninja & Griffin Island -Dragon pass Classic : River of Cradles, Borderlands -High level or Bashing games : Plunder and RuneMasters

As GM, we need to understand how it work to be able to know what is possible what is not ! This is the very core of mankind and the very opposite of fantastic How it work to me, I prefer understand each different magic with different set of rules ... For divine magic use, as the spell soul sight state, people from the same cult can recognise another initiate surely because they share the same magic bond with a god. So Initiate Bull Storm condition is set by a link to Bull Storm (every Minotaur could also be automatically include by error !? ). With spirit magic checking a descendants condition, you can say that spirits are strictly like animals (or pokemon :p), they can simply smell or recognise a peculiar trait in someone. This may not be perfect but a lot of creature can genetically recognise a family member even if they never meet ! Spirits could be wrong sometimes and it as never been said that they always know the true... You don't have to go that far ! What is the spell for some creature are just natural abilities for others, Example : Humakti initiate could learn the spell sense undead or have it as a gift ! Shaman have second sight as a natural ability and they don't use it as the spell. Spirit don't NECESSARY use spells, sometimes they just have the ability to do it without spending a single magic point. To me, Abilities of detections can be acquired by spirit magic spell for some people or be a natural gift for those born with it. Abilities to sense an enemy are common through history, as peculiar fan of orientals plays, Warriors can naturally sense enemies but magician need a spell to do the same. RuneQuestly speaking, A warrior who can control the death Rune can also detect it but a sorcerer need a spell to do this.

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1/ Not really, Atlat skill used with javelin will start at half of the javelin skill. You don't re-start form nil, but almost XD 2/ Javelin (1D8) + Atlat (+1D6) is a 1D8+1D6 Damage weapon; Each Multimissile point can copy at max a 2D6 Damage, So first Multimissile 4 will only create 2 extra-projectile in this case and second, after using the spell on the javelin, it will immediately create 2 extra non-empaling magic javelin at the moment you use it.

Passions ( Love / Hate, Honor / Loyalty / Devotion ) for Pamaltela -An Aldryami Scout : Playing tricks on dwarfs / Death Bringers, Never harm children, Always keep a promise / Friend of Pygmies / Shannasse, friend of Eurmal -An Aldryami Gardener : Growing plants, Flying from a battle / Fights, Quests or any tiring activity, What is Honor for ? / Errinoru Tree of Ytarian / Flamal -An Aldryami Woodlord-wannabe : Burning Enemies, Huge Explosions / Himself for being powerless, Babeester-Gor / Fireberg-Forests / Aldrya-of-the-Fireberg-Forests -An Aldryami runner : Playing with Children, looking for trouble / Insects bigger than himself , To not fight unless ordered to / Always obey Dryads / Voria, Protectress of all the Little Ones -An Aldryami Pixies : Playing tricks, Hide others possessions / Doing something usefull, telling the true, Never follow any Rules / The Pixies Queen(Herself) / Shannasse only

Everyone don't see fanaticism effect the same way, Mine is probably more like Jusmak. As an Image is greater than a thousand word : Poster 52 by redhavic on deviantart, Image from berserk by Kentarō Miura I don't want this debate but it will be less boring than the fanaticism's one. XD