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Delecti is an incarnation of Nontraya, which has been said to be another name for Vivamort (Cults of Terror mentions Delecti as a hero-priest of Vivamort even though his undead transmigration . His mythology is quite different from that of Vivamort in Cults of Terror (and even the interlude in Lords of Terror) but I now think the Vivamort cult writeup reflects the (God Learner) understanding of his origins while the Nontrayan mythology reflects the Orlanthi experiences of him in the Great Darkness with his mysterious origin and all that. (he came from nowhere, he did awful stuff, he was driven off). There's another Vampire God in the Eastern Isles and Fonrit's may (I stress *may*) be known as Vovisibor. I don't think there is an essential difference between vampires of various regions (except trivia bits like the classic vampires changing into a wolf or bat while the Daughters of Darkness don't). The way to become a Vampire was discovered many times in the Gods War and while there are many different methods of becoming a vampire (Western Vampires are probably grounded in the Vanus Credo, a twisted version of Malkioni religion while Dragon Pass Vampires might sacrifice their souls to Nontraya and Delecti), the end state is the same.

Not every Praxian is an intiate of Waha or Eiritha - some worship other gods with a more... pragmatic view. These could be safely used by the khans as intermediaries without offending religious taboos. They won't be saying anything as open as "you think you could get in touch with the broos" but more like "I hope we'll not be fighting downwind of any broos". DAKA FAL: Hates all gods and is an associate of Thed. Now the two have largely seperate sets of ancestors but there is a potential for a common ancestor for any Broo and Praxian (granted, they would be usually be evil or malign to the one side). They could be the basis for safe communication over a distance. HUMAKT: is neutral to a lot of chaotic gods including Thed. A Humakti Broo would be rather rare in the wastes but they could exist and the Humakti might know where to find them. A possible scenario: an initiate in trouble for a lackadaisical attitude to the laws of Armed Conflict might be sent to find a Humakti Broo and challenge him to a duel to bring home its importance. A similar argument exists for Scorpionmen. SEVEN MOTHERS: Enlightened attitude to Chaos. 'Nuff Said. SUNSET SOCIETY: Secret and Evil. Who knows what they think about Chaos? What about the Storm Bullies? The worshippers of Storm Bull are not part of normal Praxian society and largely form boisterous brotherhoods that do their own thing. The Praxians might know where they are and give warning to the Broos about their location in return for being left alone etc.

RQ3 was written to be non-gloranthan, therefore arguing from its rules in many cases will lead you astray. We never got an RQ3 Vivamort cult and so really have no clear idea how it would have worked. In any case, Vampires are chaotic because they have no souls rather than what they do. There are suggestions of non-Vivamort vampires but again there's been no clear idea of how they work.

My theory on why the Telmori are chaotic. Nysalor taught them how to change at will through breaking the Cosmic Compromise in a specific way (he has form as can be seen at the Battle of Night and Day). But breaking the Compromise causes chaos. Ergo by changing at will (and later changing without will), the Telmori repeatedly break the Compromise and are chaotic.

Depends on what you mean by twisted version, doesn't it? If you mean that once in a while, a scorpionfolk arises that looks like the victim and even acts like it on occasions, that's something I'm happy with. If you mean that the new scorpionfolk is the old victim twisted by chaos, then for me that's a step too far. It means that Bagog somehow has the ability to come between a victim and their god and damn the victim irrevoacably. If Bagog was one of the Great Old Ones on the scale of Hastur or Yog-Shoggoth, that might be believable but she's not. She's a mere two-bit demon and one of the thicker ones to boot.

Cults of Terror is rather ambiguous as to whether the devoured victim is the same person as the reborn scorpionfolk. There's some passages therein that could be construed as the answer being yes but the actual ritual itself suggests no. Lords of Terror enthusiastically rewrote the cult so that the answer was emphatically yes but there are serious philosophical issues about this (best exemplified in K'rana) that lead me to believe that the answer should have been no. IMO the scorpionfolk acquires knowledges, skills, possibly some battle magic (depends on what El Jefe thinks) and some other memories when they ritually devour someone but they do not acquire the victim's core self. At best, they are like the Alzabo, the gene wolf from the Sword of the Lictor series (itself based on some extravagant claims made in the 60s about flatworms and mRNA). An intelligent scorpionfolk could try and use the memories to pretend to be the devoured victim but personality-wise they are quite different. So the devoured's INT, POW and CHA are lost. All that is left is some chaotically acquired memories.

I think comparisons with the Orlanthi are misleading because the Pure Horse People are Yelmic. Authority and Power should flow from the above and not be rooted in some mandate from the masses vested in the Feathered Horse Queen. At the very least, the King will appoint male relatives as Princes to oversee the far flung regions of his tribe. Rather than copy from the Dara Happans, he would have Prince Pole Star, Prince Evening Star etc.

Then please don't misquote other people to launch you own theories about what you think is the case. You should be quite capable of writing a new post.

I didn't say all. I explicitly said a mixture of Trolls, Gargoyles and the like.

It depends on what the definition of demon is, init. Since Trolls come from the Underworld, they qualify. And there are tunnels to hell in Dagori Inkarth.

The Arandinni were originally the human land of Zatalumash and so it seems likely to me that it's a mixed Andin/human land. I've always considered the relationship between the Arandinni and Hanfarador to be epitomised in this statuary I once saw at Bangkok Airport. That's the Samudra Manthana For this reason, I always seen the Andins as more of a mixture of Trolls (sea trolls are explicitly mentioned in the Guide p93), Gargoyles and the like rather than chaotics.

It's been around for a while. The Cornw-Test of Leika Ballista involved a trip to the Caves of Chaos in Snakepipe Hollow.

Errinoru fought the God Learners at the Invasion of the Talking Beach (which is kinda curious for its dating) and later destroyed four cities on the Pamaltelan coast. His modern day successors have the upper hand against Flanch (who should count as foreign).

In Pamaltela, I would say the armed forces of Golden Kareeshtu are supreme. However that largely depends on their yachts and ability to hold and resupply cities by sea. I doubt they are capable of mustering a professional army and keep it in the field for an extended period of time. Behind them would be the Arbennan and the Kresh. Afadjann extends its power through Darleester rather than any major operations and Nikosdros is keeping quiet for the time being. In the East are the navies of Haragala and Hanfarador. Both are coming under serious pressure from the Andins.

There's always the chance it wasn't the Great Sister's urging. Argenteus might just have been drunk enough and whined why he couldn't be the bad guy for once. A ritual involving a sacrifice of a king does take place in Carantes (cf the Red King story in the Entekosiad) but it isn't a Corn Rite. Honeel started her career with the slaughter of the Horse Nomad rulers of Doblian City. Again not a corn ritual. The traditional for the murder of the Emperor would be the Footstool (after Murharzarm). Other places might be Furthest (with HonEel did in Pyjeemsaab) and Oraya (where the last Corn Priestesses were sent in a crackdown) but both those places are dicy militarily speaking.

I think this is Renovus rather than Kazkurtum. He's not a Red Emperor as such (ie is not of One Substance with Moonson) but a legitimate Emperor of Dara Happa. Another reference to him is the TakenEgi Stelae (erected by Invictus, I think) "I was enthroned in the 13th year of the 8th Wane, after the Rebel Gods killed the Usurper whom my mother and sister had given dominion of Glamour" who is named in King of Sartar as Phargentes. Question: how bad is the relation between Phargentes Invictus and JarEel if she makes Someone Else the Emperor rather than her son? Perhaps he had too much of his father in him? I'm inclined to see a Hamlet scenario with Brian Cox's Logan Roy as the Emperor's Cousin (an obscure personage mentioned in a Gregly text published in Tales #8) if that helps.

Basically the magics of the dragonewts (and perhaps Wyrms) as most recently seen on the Bestiary. Humans will probably use rune points to cast them as they are not dragonewts. Their dragon magic will be inferior because of this (no casting on SR 1, limited by rune pool etc). I think there are alternate paths based on Shamanism (ie Daruda) and Sorcery but I'm already getting too speculative as is.

On the subject of Shaman Sorcerers, RQ3's Trollpak said that Mistress Race Trolls could be Shaman, Sorcerer, Priestess or any combination thereof. I suspect it's a case of who is going to say they can't?

God Learners achieved their magics through powerful wizards rather than heroes. Any aspiring superheroes probably had Hrestoli or Arkati sympathies which would have made them targets for eradication. If they didn't have such sympathies, the Wizards would have still gone after them.

15 year old gloranthans are 15 years old in earth years, not 12 years.

Try HeroQuest Glorantha p100-101.

Minutes, seconds, hours, days and years are the same as on earth. Gloranthans just age slightly faster than us.

When the book becomes available for purchase at chaosium.com - which has been said to be in July.

IMO yes but only from the ancestral version of Lodril that they worship, not the Dara Happan version for instance.

It's just that he's been called Superhero in the Redline History (early version). The other five Mothers were more into becoming Gods than Heroes. At a rough guess, a critical concentration of heroic powers. Arkat, Harrek and JarEel were all forged in epic conflicts that makes clashes between the Red Emperor and Sheng Seleris, say, seem like mere child's play.