Sun County, RuneQuest Adventures in the Land of the Sun is not possible to buy anymore, right?

[Malin]

Just wanted to make sure I am not overlooking something. The old Sun County volume is not possible to buy outside used copies, right? I know some old modules are but I have been looking everywhere and not being able to find it.

I have had mine since the nineties, just wanted to check if there was a link in case others were interested in buying it too. Same with the River of Cradles one.

Edited August 21 by Malin

[Oracle]

Sun County as well as River of Cradles are RuneQuest 3 modules, which are not available except on ebay or similar platforms - which is the case for all RuneQuest 3 publications.

The old modules still (or better again) available are RuneQuest 2 modules, which have been made available again through a Kickstarter several years ago.

[Malin]

Thank you, thought that was the case, but I just wanted to double-check!

[Erol of Backford]

$65 on amazon for a used copy.

We had loads of fun in that book. Couple that with the River of Cradles as a prequel, (ouch its like $125) along with Borderlands & Beyond, the Big Rubble the Sand Heart series and you have a great campaign, loads of scenarios should run a few years. Don't forget Shadows on the Borderlands as its when things got really good!

I'd say it's worth picking it/them up... even if to just replay for the memories, good stuff.

Spoiler

In one campaign we ended up turning the subterranean cave complex below Rabbit Hat into a dwarven outpost/smithy for  some homeless dwarves similar to those in the Elder Secrets Dwarf Scenarios p.116. The Sun County orders for weapons and armor flooded into Rabbit Hat all the time not knowing the PC's were not the smiths. To be fair the PC's did engage the Dwarves to train them in all sorts of crafting endeavors... manned the billows and eventully did start generating weapons and armor. The PC's who had an Elmali Acolyte leading them (at least while in Sun County) ended up repopulating Rabbit Hat with Black Rock citizens who were not killed. They swore Humakti Oaths to the Emali PC (not anyone else in Sun County) that spared them and all turned out well long term. What was most funny was the Acolytes name: Obsidian.

 

[Joerg]

I have a spare shrink-wrapped copy in Germany that might be looking for a good home.

[Rick Meints]

All of the Avalon Hill RuneQuest 3 line of products, including Sun County, went out of print when AH was bought by Hasbro. Basically, it hasn't been for sale since 2000.

[Wheel Shield]

How useful are those Avalon Hill books for contemporary Runequest Glorantha? Specifically if you're adhering to canon (and I don't mean strictly adhering because YGMV, but let's say casually adhering to canon).

For example, I think Jeff has suggested not paying much mind to the Issaries Inc. era HQ/ Hero Wars books. Would the same apply to these 3rd edition Avalon Hill books, or are they worth some attention?

I kinda remember them (I lost all my old collection), and they seemed kinda OG Old School - I.e. cool.

* Not intended to strictly quote Jeff, just my general impression.

Edited August 24 by Wheel Shield
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[Malin]

Depends. The Sun County one is really useful if you play there. The River of Cradles one is a good overview of the entire Zola Fel river. Dorastor was cool as hell with a good hook for a campaign there, though I never played it. I think those three were the ones I found the most useful where stuff has not been used for new supplements and stuff yet.  A lot of the Prax and Borderlands have been popping up elsewhere I think.

[Nick Brooke]

Jeff considers Sun County part of the “canonical corpus” as a description of the Sun County in Prax: history, places, personnel, the whole nine yards. 24 October 2022, in a post to the RuneQuest Facebook group. Same goes for Dorastor. Search for it using the phrase in quotes.

[Wheel Shield]

Thanks guys!
 

@Nick Brooke if you say it’s a fact, I’ll take your word for it. 😉 (but thanks again)

[Nick Brooke]

9 minutes ago, Wheel Shield said:

@Nick Brooke if you say it’s a fact, I’ll take your word for it. 😉 (but thanks again)

No need, Scotty’s archived the post here: Jeff’s Canonical Corpus.

[Wheel Shield]

That list is longer than I remembered! I wondered about Strangers in Prax, but I see the issue. (I did a search and David Scott explained it)

Do we know anything about Shadows on the Borderlands? 

[Nick Brooke]

We know that Gaumata’s Vision by Mike Dawson is probably the best RuneQuest scenario ever written: that should be enough reason to buy it.

The problem with these “canon” lists is that Jeff seems to take a very legalistic view (understandably, considering his background): only if everything in a book is 100% perfect and exactly what he’d publish today will he incorporate it in his list. So let’s say there’s some wording in (I dunno) the Ogre version of “What My Father Told Me” that isn’t precisely to his taste… well, now: Shadows on the Borderlands can hardly be considered canon if it contains that aberration, can it now?

Many folk take a broader view: if it’s basically OK, include it in the canon, and we can wrangle over oddities and edge cases later. Which is what the early Church did when defining scriptural canon (which is, of course, replete with inconsistencies, multiple overlapping contradictory versions of the same event, stylistic wrenches, characters portrayed in wildly different ways, etc.). But I’m a historian, not a lawyer, and see things differently.

[Wheel Shield]

I follow. I’m not a slave to canon, so “if it’s basically okay”, it suits me just fine. Thank you, as always, for the insights.

[Malin]

I am once again reminded how very grateful I am that the Your Glorantha May Vary is a base tenet of the game that keeps being repeated. Gives a wonderful freedom for someone like me.