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I read through Runequest Glorantha, and while I found it very cool, there were a lot of comments that left me fairly confused.  What was a God Learner?  Who (or what) was Belintar?  To rectify my confusion, I bought the Guide to Glorantha, and have been reading through it from start to finish. Things are starting to come into focus, but I often find myself searching through the pdf to figure where places are who people are who are referred to earlier in the book before they're "defined" later.  It's been a very fun read ... up until yesterday.

Yesterday, I hit the Dragon Pass section, and read that Dragon Pass was governed by Fazzur Wideread.  "That doesn't sound right", says I, and looked in RQG.  Then I realised that RQG is set in 1625, whereas the Guide to Glorantha is based on a present date of 1621.

This seems a bit of a snafu, since it would be pretty natural for someone to want to use Guide to Glorantha as a reference for a campaign using RQG.  My question then is: what happened between 1621 and 1625? 

Where would one find this information?  I see two potential sources: the Glorantha Sourcebook or The King of Sartar. Which one am I supposed to read to understand what's happened "post Guide"?  Or do neither of these help with this campaign date mismatch?

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Since you already have access to it, I'd start with Appendix J: The Hero Wars in the Guide to Glorantha.

Both the Sourcebook and King of Sartar add some information, though I haven't done a close reading on what each of them add to what's in that appendix. King of Sartar provides multiple mutually contradictory in-world histories and commentaries, pointing out some areas where the Guide version just gives one version (the Guide generally uses the version that's most positive towards Argrath, and without some of the material that supports the "multiple Argraths" analysis). It also gives documents describing events past 1625.

The Glorantha Sourcebook has a history of Dragon Pass that goes up to 1625, but it's not as detailed as King of Sartar. There's other good material in the Guide, but if you're just looking for Dragon Pass material King of Sartar is probably a better source. But be prepared for unreliable narrators!

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2 hours ago, Tupper said:

My question then is: what happened between 1621 and 1625? 

The main events are described in RQG in the Background section for character generation.

1621-2: The Great Winter, concluding with the Battle of Auroch Hills and Samastina's coup in Nochet.

1623: Siege of Nochet

1624: The Boat Planet rises; siege of Nochet ends when Argrath, Harrek and the Wolf Pirates arrive leading up to the Battle of Pennel.

1625: Pavis Liberated; the Dragonrise destroys most of the Lunar forces and the New Lunar Temple in Sartar; Kallyr declares herself Prince of Sartar.

 

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Thanks for the comments.  Looks like Appendix J could be the business.  I definitely noted the events in the character generation timeline, and trying to understand what they all meant was part of my motivation in reading the Guide to Glorantha.  I'm guessing the other region (besides Dragon Pass) where things could get a bit funky is Fronela, where the Syndic's Ban is slowly lifting (and more could have lifted by 1625).  I figure I'll cross that bridge when I get to that chapter of the Guide.

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8 minutes ago, Tupper said:

Syndic's Ban is slowly lifting (and more could have lifted by 1625)

Most of the Syndic's Ban ends in 1624, I believe, with the rise of the Boat Planet, and it is completely lifted by 1628.

Per GtG p.228: "The Syndic’s Ban continues to lift from the remaining lands subject to it. In 1624, the lands west of Samita Lake are freed, revealing several Orlanthi tribes. In 1625, Xemstown is lifted from the Ban, revealing powerful troll gangs, including the Night Guard and the Shadows of Death. In 1628, Charg is lifted from the Ban, revealing tribes of storm worshipers who worship war gods, such as Storm Bull, Humakt, and Orlanth."

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