g33k Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) H'lo, all ... As I understand it, all the "BRP Monographs" have been returned to the original authors' control (unless any of them used Chaosium IP such as Chaosium-origin post-Lovecraft-Circle Cthulhu contributions, which Chaosium obviously owns/controls). A few items (such as Classic Fantasy) have gone off to other product-lines, outside Chaosium. But for most of those monographs, it would seem as if -- in light of the new ORC-licensed BRP:UGE -- they could now see a new life. I think that's Chaosium's intention. I think they would welcome it! Does anyone know if any of them are being developed that way? Does anyone have contact-info to encourage those authors to do so (or to take over those projects and do it themselves, with the permissions of those authors)? Edited October 24 by g33k Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 They could ge back to life right now as a Miskatonic Repository publication, if i am not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 1 hour ago, AndreJarosch said: They could ge back to life right now as a Miskatonic Repository publication, if i am not mistaken. Only the CoC monographs (which I think are about half of them). Plenty of others that are clearly non-Mythos "plain ol' BRP" monographs. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 11 minutes ago, g33k said: Only the CoC monographs (which I think are about half of them). Plenty of others that are clearly non-Mythos "plain ol' BRP" monographs. There were 112 Monographs: 4 Stormbringer 28 BRP (which include 4 books directly copied from RQ3) 80 CoC I know, because i have all of them except one on my shelf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, AndreJarosch said: There were 112 Monographs: 4 Stormbringer 28 BRP (which include 4 books directly copied from RQ3) 80 CoC I stand corrected! (*) The 4 SB titles are out of license (unless Chaosium gets that back (which seems possible -- AIUI the main architect of the French company has passed (or am I recalling a different French RPG company?))). But the 80 CoC could go up onto MR, if the authors wanted (does MR have edition requirements, e.g. only editions in-print?). The same question as my OP applies: I'm pretty sure Chaosium has returned the rights to (at least most of) those authors, and they're free to re-publish on the MR; I dunno, maybe some of them already have been re-published there??? But for most... is anyone in a position to nudge those folks? And then there are 28 BRP monographs. Some of those were QUITE well-received (and not yet re-homed at other publishers)... A couple of meh, to be sure. But... 15-20 ORC-eligible (and likely successful) products, perhaps? For which, I reiterate my OP query... Edited October 24 by g33k (*) technically, I am seated at the moment. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, AndreJarosch said: 28 BRP (which include 4 books directly copied from RQ3) Wooo! What was the monograph number on the "Players Book" monograph! I have the others and have been searching for that one for a while. SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 4 hours ago, SDLeary said: Wooo! What was the monograph number on the "Players Book" monograph! I have the others and have been searching for that one for a while. SDLeary 0369 Basic Players I miss 0370 Basic Magic in my collection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 The last I heard is that yes, entirely author owned monograph IP is back with the authors and that there were plans to do some sort of community content program for BRP once the new book was released. I am currently (in amongst day job and couple of bouts of illness etc etc) working on revising both Outpost 19 and preparing a long-gestating Magic World project for possible release if this route becomes viable. This issue with “Miskatonic Repository” is that it’s remit is Call of Cthulhu, in the same way that “Jonstown Compendium” is RQ / Gloranthan: like all CCPs, they have well defined boundaries of what can be referenced etc. BRP UGE material would need similar robust definitions: which have yet to be released. As for Basic Magic, it was of course kinda supplanted by the Basic Magic Book. Cheers, NDM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 19 hours ago, g33k said: I stand corrected! (*) The 4 SB titles are out of license (unless Chaosium gets that back (which seems possible -- AIUI the main architect of the French company has passed (or am I recalling a different French RPG company?))). But the 80 CoC could go up onto MR, if the authors wanted (does MR have edition requirements, e.g. only editions in-print?). The same question as my OP applies: I'm pretty sure Chaosium has returned the rights to (at least most of) those authors, and they're free to re-publish on the MR; I dunno, maybe some of them already have been re-published there??? But for most... is anyone in a position to nudge those folks? And then there are 28 BRP monographs. Some of those were QUITE well-received (and not yet re-homed at other publishers)... A couple of meh, to be sure. But... 15-20 ORC-eligible (and likely successful) products, perhaps? For which, I reiterate my OP query... CHAOSIUM BRP MONOGRAPHS Jun 08 0352 Ashes to Ashes (Jeff Moeller) dark fantasy setting Jun 08 0357 Berlin 61 (Christopher Barnhart) espionage horror setting Jul 09 0360 Agents of the Crown (Scott Pyle) Victorian pulp action Dec 08 0365 Outpost 19 (Nick Middleton) comando scifi Mar 09 0366 Aces High (Stuart Godbolt) mystical western Apr 09 0368 BRP Adventures (Many) winners of 2008 contest May 09 0369 Basic Players (Perrin, Stafford, Krank) May 09 0370 Basic Magic (Stafford, Krank, Turney) May 09 0371 Basic Creatures (Sandy Petersen and Steve Perrin) May 09 0372 Basic Gamemaster (Stafford, Krank, Rolston, Petersen, Perrin) Aug 09 0374 Light without Shadow, ... (David Fitzgerald ) Fantasy adventure May 09 0375 In Search of the Trollslayer(Troy Wilhelmson) Fantasy adventure Aug 09 0376 Val-du-Loup (Guy Dondlinger ) Luxembourg knights Oct 09 0378 The River Terror (Many) winners of 2009 contest Oct 09 0383 Classic Fantasy (Rodney Leary) dungeon crawl homage Oct 09 0384 Fractured Hopes (Charles Green) Space Fantasy Dec 09 0385 Modern Equipment Catalog(Domenic de Bechi & Rob Thomas) Modern Dec 09 0386 BRP Witchcraft (Byron Alexander) setting and rules Dec 09 0388 The Green (Scott Heiney) fantasy Apr 10 0389 Rubble & Ruin (Richard LeDuc) apocalyptic/crime Jun 10 0392 Dust to Dust (Jeff Moeller) dark fantasy setting Oct 10 0398 Lords of Tarsa (James Brian King) Mar 11 0400 Blood & Badges (8 People) Adventure collection Jun 11 0401 Operation Ulysses (Eric Lane Webb) SciFi Jul 12 0407 Aces High New Mexico (Stuart Godbolt) Jul 12 0409 A Nation Ransomed (Scrivner, Devaney, Barnhart & Christensen) adventure collection Aug 12 0411 Swords of Cydoria (Christian Conkle) May 15 0412 Mission to Epsilon (Oscar Rios) Edited October 24 by AndreJarosch 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) Blood and Badges authors were: Jon Hook, Kevin Ross, Kevin Scrivner, R.J. Christensen, Tom Lynch, Rich LeDuc , Marko Ercegovi ́c ‘Streebor’ and Simon Yee. The River Terror authors were: Oscar Rios, William Nobel, R.J. Christensen, Jon Hook, Kenneth Spencer, Michael Silverling, Kevin Scrivner, Bruce Thompson, Patrice Crespy, Tom Lynch and Greg White Mission to Epsilon was also an anthology of adventures: Authors were Oscar Rios, Jeromy M Schulz-Arnold, Richard LeDuc, Kevin Scrivner and R.J. Christensen. BRP Adventures Authors were: Andrei Baltakmans, Chad Bowser, Jean-Philipe Chapleau, Sverre Larne, Guy dondlinger, R.J. Christensen, Stuart Godbolt, Rich Leduc, Sarah Newton, Matt Steele, Jason Williams, Simon Yee, and Bruce Thomson NOTE: I believe (correct me if I'm wrong Andre) that Andre's table is solely the square bound "BRP" monographs from the BGB era - the Basic Players / Gamemaster / magic / Creatures books were ALSO released way back in the "tape bound" monograph era. (2006 - P, 2006- G, 2006 - M and 2006 - C). Richard Le Duc’s Rubble & Ruin has been ported to Mythras, Christian Conkle’s Swords of Cydoria has been released for another non D100 system iirc. IIRC Oscar Rios and at least some others are mostly writing at Golden Goblin Press and othe CoC small presses these days? But I largely lost track of where many of the monograph peeps who crossed freely between CoC and BRP went about a decade back when I drifted away from CoC. Some of the individual adventures in various of the BRP monographs were adapted with the original authors permissions (and by them in some cases) for a never released Magic World work, Richard LeDuc's Shillingshead. Edited October 24 by NickMiddleton Added various author lists for anthologies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albesias Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I'm thinking about writing some stuff about power systems design but need improve my writing skilll at least +20% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 8 hours ago, g33k said: does MR have edition requirements, e.g. only editions in-print?. Yes, must be 7th edition. I think most CoC monographs were per 2014, so all would need updating. https://support.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005751243-Chaosium-Miskatonic-Repository- 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleel Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I’d be pretty happy to see another round done of Aces High, perhaps with some edits towards a modern audience. rubble and ruin was published under mythras gateway not long ago, and Rodney already did Classic Fantasy. It is getting released under or as Classic Fantasy Imperative and then whatever the rest of the classes come under. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugen Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 13 hours ago, g33k said: The 4 SB titles are out of license (unless Chaosium gets that back (which seems possible -- AIUI the main architect of the French company has passed (or am I recalling a different French RPG company?))). Le Département des Sombres Projets lost two of its writers in the last few years (and both at a rather young age), but as far as I know it didn't impact their will to publish Moorcock material, even though their focus is more on the Elric Boardgame and Hawkmoon right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 8 hours ago, AndreJarosch said: 0369 Basic Players I miss 0370 Basic Magic in my collection. That's what I thought it might be... almost impossible to find. Thanks for the confirmation on number! SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 hours ago, NickMiddleton said: NOTE: I believe (correct me if I'm wrong Andre) that Andre's table is solely the square bound "BRP" monographs from the BGB era - the Basic Players / Gamemaster / magic / Creatures books were ALSO released way back in the "tape bound" monograph era. (2006 - P, 2006- G, 2006 - M and 2006 - C). Yes. Tape bound monographs are even more scarce though, probably due to their fragile nature. I would love to see all of these back, but I know that 0369-0372 have a very slim chance in hell of ever seeing the light of day! 😉 SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 minute ago, SDLeary said: Yes. Tape bound monographs are even more scarce though, probably due to their fragile nature. I would love to see all of these back, but I know that 0369-0372 have a very slim chance in hell of ever seeing the light of day! 😉 SDLeary Buy Deluxe RuneQuest (Avalon Hill) and you have all four. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 hours ago, NickMiddleton said: IIRC Oscar Rios and at least some others are mostly writing at Golden Goblin Press and othe CoC small presses these days? But I largely lost track of where many of the monograph peeps who crossed freely between CoC and BRP went about a decade back when I drifted away from CoC. Yes. And based on the Kickstarter messages, he is having a difficult time outside of Golden Goblin/gaming. SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 minute ago, AndreJarosch said: Buy Deluxe RuneQuest (Avalon Hill) and you have all four. Of course. Have that. Just trying to be a completist! Also, one of my copies of RQ3 has a broken spine, and am trying to prepare for its eventual sacrifice on the alter of a project I'm planning out. Say what some might about the monographs, I haven't had one yet that had a fragile spine. SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 @AndreJarosch Pretty sure #0398 is "Lords of Tarsa," not "Lord" (singular) of "Tharsa" ... Yes: It's one of the monographs I was unaware-of, until very recently. But looking at older threads, it was very well-reviewed and respected. It looks like a prime candidate to be renewed via BRP:UGE & the ORC license, if @jamesbrianking is still around, still interested (or willing to hand-off his project to a 3rd party who was interested (who probably is not me, alas)). Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 9 hours ago, David Scott said: Yes, must be 7th edition. I think most CoC monographs were per 2014, so all would need updating. Obviously, you folks have the sales-numbers for your recent "Cthulhu Classic" box-sets. I'd have thought -- if the numbers you saw supported it -- that also allowing that edition would make good sense. But maybe those sales-numbers don't support a Community Content program... Or maybe you're looking at the JC, where RQ Classic is allowed, but has few (zero?) offerings. In the end, it's obviously your call. I don't suppose Chaosium is in business to leave easy money on the table! 9 hours ago, David Scott said: ... https://support.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005751243-Chaosium-Miskatonic-Repository- FYI -- I get a warning at that URL: Quote Attention - We've moved! Click the link to the right to go to the new help center: New Help Center This version of the help center is no longer being maintained and will be deactivated on June 30th, 2023 So... "deactivated" 4 months ago. I presume that means "subject to being broken without notice, and never fixed." Your new URL appears to be: https://help.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/12723261671959-Chaosium-Miskatonic-Repository- Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 8 minutes ago, g33k said: Obviously, you folks have the sales-numbers for your recent "Cthulhu Classic" box-sets. I'd have thought -- if the numbers you saw supported it -- that also allowing that edition would make good sense. But maybe those sales-numbers don't support a Community Content program... Or maybe you're looking at the JC, where RQ Classic is allowed, but has few (zero?) offerings. In the end, it's obviously your call. I don't suppose Chaosium is in business to leave easy money on the table! Call of Cthulhu Classic makes it very clear that it is not for 7th edition (it's actually 2nd edition). We have yet to find anyone who was/is confused by it not being the latest edition of the game. The Miskatonic Repository is a very different situation. We don't want anyone to get confused about what edition a product is for. They are all for the current edition. We used to sell some of the previous editions of the CoC rules on DTRPG, but the sales were quite low, and the confusion caused by it made it not worth continuing. The Jonstown Compendium is also a very different situation. The RQ Classics don't really require any conversion to use, and we also have had little to no confusion raised by the buying public. While we don't like leaving a significant amount of money on the table (that's why we reprinted Beyond the Mountains of Madness) we are not going to deal with the grief and confusion raised by selling a product that might sell 10 copies per year. As we have said for some time, all of the monograph copyrights reverted back to their authors/creatives. If the Monograph is for CoC they are welcome to update it to 7th ed. and then publish it on the Miskatonic Repository. If they did so they would probably make more money as MR books than they ever did as Monographs. As for why the authors haven't done that, you'd have to ask them. Updating a CoC monograph to 7th edition could take very little time. Most monographs are not super stat heavy. Chances are the electronic file would need to get updated/adjusted for DTRPGs PDF standard and sizes in many cases, and the other 7th edition changes required could be done at the same time. 1 1 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, Rick Meints said: ... We used to sell some of the previous editions of the CoC rules on DTRPG, but the sales were quite low, and the confusion caused by it made it not worth continuing. ... While we don't like leaving a significant amount of money on the table (that's why we reprinted Beyond the Mountains of Madness) we are not going to deal with the grief and confusion raised by selling a product that might sell 10 copies per year... Thank you, Rick. This explains Chaosium's decision clearly; it's a very welcome statement! (and fans of the older titles are just going to have to face the fact that they are so small a minority that their tiny market is money-losing for Chaosium) 2 hours ago, Rick Meints said: ... As we have said for some time, all of the monograph copyrights reverted back to their authors/creatives. If the Monograph is for CoC they are welcome to update it to 7th ed. and then publish it on the Miskatonic Repository. If they did so they would probably make more money as MR books than they ever did as Monographs. As for why the authors haven't done that, you'd have to ask them ... Indeed; I hope I made the "reverted back to authors" clear in my OP. But the main point of my OP was to get the broader community thinking if they knew any of those authors, and maybe reaching out to any creators who might not realize the modern opportunities of the ORC license, the Miskatonic Repository, &c. I myself recently reached out to John Castelluci, of "RuneQuest Adventures," in hopes that some/all of his content might see re-issue on the JC. He had been completely unaware of the "Return of the Great Old Ones," the post-GtG evolution of Chaosium, the release of RQG, the advent of the Jonstown Compendium. I have explicitly pointed him towards @Ian A. Thomson's revamped Pavis work as an example of what can be done. Last I knew, he was reading the Glorantha Sourcebook & declaring it one of the best pieces of Gloranthiana he had ever seen. Whether Mr. Castelluci moves forward with a "RQG-RQA" project is obviously now his move; but he hadn't even seen the board, before. And I suspect that a great many of the Monograph authors may be similarly unaware. 3 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertp Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 On 10/23/2023 at 5:07 PM, g33k said: The 4 SB titles are out of license (unless Chaosium gets that back (which seems possible -- AIUI the main architect of the French company has passed (or am I recalling a different French RPG company?))). Two of them, Monographs 308 (Gods of Chaos) and 335 (Gods of Law) can be found here: https://stormbringerrpg.com/publications/monographs-2/! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertp Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 17 hours ago, AndreJarosch said: May 09 0369 Basic Players (Perrin, Stafford, Krank) May 09 0370 Basic Magic (Stafford, Krank, Turney) May 09 0371 Basic Creatures (Sandy Petersen and Steve Perrin) May 09 0372 Basic Gamemaster (Stafford, Krank, Rolston, Petersen, Perrin) I haven't been able to find these, but I think these are the covers. Edited October 25 by robertp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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