M Helsdon Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Latest. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Latest. May need more work on the shading. Deliberated doing some exotic aquatic armor, but decided against it. Additional: think I will add some tattoos. Edited May 27, 2020 by M Helsdon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Reworked (and minis of all done so far). Edited May 28, 2020 by M Helsdon 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 So am I right in assuming that this will be covering not just the modern warfare of the west but its history as well? There's a lot of sketches dated pretty early on at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Richard S. said: So am I right in assuming that this will be covering not just the modern warfare of the west but its history as well? There's a lot of sketches dated pretty early on at least. Yes. It proved difficult to describe warfare in the West without going into its history. Most of the 'historical' sketches illustrate not only chapters but an assessment of the evolution of the cataphract. Edited May 29, 2020 by M Helsdon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Latest. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borygon Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Latest. I love the moustache and sword, but the combination of loincloth and undershirt (which looks pretty good on its own) looks really weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Borygon said: I love the moustache and sword, but the combination of loincloth and undershirt (which looks pretty good on its own) looks really weird. It's based on the art direction Jeff gave an artist for a piece of artwork for the Guide which resulted in this outline. I have a copy of the reference piece. However, I made the sword smaller, instead of the ancient Indian-style two handed sword in the reference. Edited May 30, 2020 by M Helsdon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Wait, shouldn't that be Horali? Or have I just been misspelling it all this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Richard S. said: Wait, shouldn't that be Horali? Or have I just been misspelling it all this time? Sigh. Yes, it is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Double post. Edited May 30, 2020 by M Helsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Sigh. Yes, it is wrong. Ah, sorry if I came off as rude. I spelled and said Nysalor as Nyaslor for years so I was legitimately worried I was wrong about Horali too. Edited May 30, 2020 by Richard S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, Richard S. said: Ah, sorry if I came off as rude. I spelled and said Nysalor as Nyaslor for years so I was legitimately worried I was wrong about Horali too. Not at all. For some reason I have written holari instead of horali almost all the way through... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Well, Glorantha has Dronar and Dromal, so it's not like stuff like that hasn't happened in-universe as well. Love the Horali, though, he looks quite dashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 Latest. He is, of course, Seshnelan. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borygon Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, M Helsdon said: Latest. He is, of course, Seshnelan. How is that thigh section connected to that skirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 8:53 PM, M Helsdon said: Latest. Horal Poirot is on the case! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Borygon said: How is that thigh section connected to that skirt? With straps to the belt. Sadly not very apparent at this resolution. Will see if I can enhance. No. That area is in shadow, so it isn't feasible to adjust it. Edited May 31, 2020 by M Helsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanPospisil Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Central Asian lamellar usually doesn't have a gap between the cuirass and the "thigh plates" (it's often more of a skirt), so I might be responsible for that if this was used as reference. (https://www.deviantart.com/merlkir/art/GtG-06-Castes-of-the-Malkioni-446448169) At least you put more armour underneath, so the gap is less dangerous. We already talked about these knights and the real world inspiration here: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, JanPospisil said: Central Asian lamellar usually doesn't have a gap between the cuirass and the "thigh plates" (it's often more of a skirt), so I might be responsible for that if this was used as reference. (https://www.deviantart.com/merlkir/art/GtG-06-Castes-of-the-Malkioni-446448169) Yes, in part. I always study canonical art and attempt to include aspects of it. In this case, the armor I drew is only partly Central Asian in character, as it mixes a bronze cuirass, scale skirt, and lamellar manica and leg armor (I used Jeff's Seshnelan art direction, which the artist above deviated from to use entirely Central Asian style armor - I have copy of a book where the cavalryman appears, in almost exactly the same pose he used, the only obvious difference being the crest he gave the horse...) One thing I wanted to make obvious in this case, is that although the rider is a Noble, and called a knight, he isn't a European medieval knight. 11 hours ago, JanPospisil said: At least you put more armour underneath, so the gap is less dangerous. In this case, the thigh-guard armor is in addition to the scale skirt and the tubed leg armor, so there isn't a gap, even if the thigh-guards weren't there - they provide additional protection where the rider would be vulnerable from attacks from a foe on foot. Additional: Not only human foes, but lions. Seshnelan nobles hunt lions. Edited June 1, 2020 by M Helsdon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Just roughing out the next two. Lion and Snake War Societies. The Lion should be on a horse, but these mounted sketches take up a lot of space (an infantry figure takes a day or two to finish; a cavalry figure two to four days... I am using pen and ink, and then making digital changes, mainly for skin tones). Am deliberating whether to give the Snake soldier crocodile armor, as I believe they are found in the Lower Tanier River. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tindalos Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Am deliberating whether to give the Snake soldier crocodile armor, as I believe they are found in the Lower Tanier River. They're mentioned in the RuneQuest Bestiary as inhabiting the coasts and rivers of southern Genertela, which would fit -- even if I picture the Tanier to have mugger crocodiles rather than the saltwater ones described in the bestiary. And crocodile hide armour would look great, so I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Just roughing out the next two. Lion and Snake War Societies. The Lion should be on a horse, but these mounted sketches take up a lot of space (an infantry figure takes a day or two to finish; a cavalry figure two to four days... I am using pen and ink, and then making digital changes, mainly for skin tones). Am deliberating whether to give the Snake soldier crocodile armor, as I believe they are found in the Lower Tanier River. Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 I am unashamedly using the cavalry pictures twice - once as full-sized illustrations, and once to illustrate the evolution of the Western cataphract. At least two more to do... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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