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Had a PC get eaten.  Now he might come back to haunt the others.  But how long from when Queen Gagix ate him until his egg hatches and how long after that till he's a full grown scorpionman?

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10 minutes ago, Pentallion said:

Had a PC get eaten.  Now he might come back to haunt the others.  But how long from when Queen Gagix ate him until his egg hatches and how long after that till he's a full grown scorpionman?

Sounds like a well-paying job from a Jonstown sage to find out!

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Just read up on scorpions.  Earth scorpions don't lay eggs.  They give live birth like mammals.

Some carry for 9 months so just like humans.  

I'm calling the cults of terror book wrong.  No eggs.  40 week pregnancy.

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Then they molt every couple of weeks for 10 weeks and hit maturity.

Lacking canonical evidence to the contrary, I'm going with that.  Fully grown 50 weeks after eating him.

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The dead PC reborn as a recurring villain is a great plot device. Works great with vampires and Lunar converts, too.

"You left me for dead. I was dead. Then the Seven Mothers gave me a second chance at life, and Danfive Xaron showed me the way. Now, it's your turn to die."

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6 hours ago, Pentallion said:

Had a PC get eaten.  Now he might come back to haunt the others.  But how long from when Queen Gagix ate him until his egg hatches and how long after that till he's a full grown scorpionman?

Welp, this was utterly nightmarish to read. I didn't that was a thing that could happen.

(Pretty cool though).

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2 hours ago, Sir_Godspeed said:

Welp, this was utterly nightmarish to read. I didn't that was a thing that could happen.

(Pretty cool though).

<Shrug>

Chaos, man.  Wotcha gonna do?

Seriously, there is just no limit on how horrific or nightmarish Chaos can get... Nor wondrous & beautiful.

Or both.   Simultaneously.

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7 hours ago, Pentallion said:

Just read up on scorpions.  Earth scorpions don't lay eggs.  They give live birth like mammals.

Some carry for 9 months so just like humans.

There are "normal" scorpions (creatures of Darkness) in Glorantha as well as bagogi. 

7 hours ago, Pentallion said:

I'm calling the cults of terror book wrong.  No eggs.  40 week pregnancy.

The references to eggs are all though Gloranthan publications, such as the new RQ bestiary.

The Ritual of Rebirth says:

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A few days later, the Queen lays an egg for each creature devoured, which hatch after a season.

I'd say they mature depending on need (they are chaotic) when there are many of them, it's slow maybe  full year, when more are needed as short as a season.

13th Age Glorantha has a full adventure against Gagix, Scorpion Queen. A great resource for scorpion men ideas and tactics. Jan Popsil did the art:

https://www.deviantart.com/merlkir/art/13thAG-Scorpion-Queen-523531737

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https://www.chaosium.com/13th-age-glorantha-pdf/

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The point in laying eggs is that queens can produce a great number of offspring. Live births are limited to her body size minus vital organs and weaponry.

I see scorpion men as usin r-strategy for procreation - lots of minions, as many quality offspring as possible.

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I think your idea is on solid ground. There is an awesome description of an illuminated Humakti scorpion woman who became a true chaotic abomination in "Lords of Terror - The Cults of Dorastor";

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Rana was born a human of the Bilini tribe, a tomboy in a clan chief's household. When her father refused to allow her to join the Vingans, she severed ties with her family, and joined a Humakti mercenary troop. She eventually became a Sword, and came to lead her own company. She earned a reputation and a good living by escorting merchants through dangerous lands, and her group became much in demand after several successful trips through Dorastor. At some point she became illuminated and embraced the way of Lunar civilisation, though she remained devout to Humakt.

Finally Rana's luck ran out. The caravan she guarded was ambushed by the scorpion men and all were slain, save Rana, who was captured and chosen by the queen, K'Zara, for the Ritual of Rebirth. When K'Rana hatched, she remembered her former life, but illumination shielded her from madness. Concealing her memories from K'Zara and the tribe, she grew to adulthood, and became a favoured bodyguard of the old queen. When K'Rana judged herself ready, she challenged K'Zara, winning easily. She devoured the old Queen and assumed leadership of the tribe. Unfortunately, she also assumed K'Zara's chaotic features. K'Rana mastered the philosophical conflicts of her twin natures (Scorpion Queen and Sword of Humakt), then began to teach her people the ways of Humakt.

Few of her tribe were promising pupils. Most became initiates (and now support a shrine), but K'Rana hoped her children would be smarter. Her first hatchlings were of human intelligence, but her second clutch produced a group of bestial siblings, barely above animals. In dreams she consulted K'Zara's memories, and the curse of the Folk was revealed to her: Bagog is a beast by nature, and has intelligent children only when she devours people. While Scorpion Men can eat each other, this only staves off the loss of intelligence for a few generations. Her first clutch produced superior children because she devoured K'Zara, wisest and strongest of her tribe.

In the three years since she became queen, K'Rana has increased her tribe's status, though it remains one of the smaller tribes in Dorastor. She renewed her ties with the Etyries merchant, trading information and escort through Dorastor for goods difficult for the folk to obtain (e.g. metal armour and weapons).

Personality: K'Rana has stoically accepted her fate, she now works to elevate her tribe from savagery into the fringes of Lunar civilisation. She identifies with her tribe, particularly her own spawn, but she envisions extending the benefits of civilisation to all Scorpion Folk.

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Could have all sorts of fun with a scorpion man character. Is the former character sane(ish), like K'Rana, or are they insane, like the madmen out of Bird Box, utterly determined that the rest of the party should also be transformed? Even if they are sane (sort of), will they try to convince the party to accept them as they now are? Ask for help to heal their unfortunate chaotic transformation? Will PCs volunteer to go on a crazy dangerous heroquest to confront Bagog, and demand their friend back as they were before the rebirth?

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We played that the Ritual of Rebirth has two outcomes, a clutch of eggs or a single egg. Both hatch after one season, but the clutch produces cute little baby scorpionfolk and the single egg hatches to produce a fully-grown scorpionman with all the abilities and memories of the original.

The cute little baby scorpionfolk grow to maturity as normal scorpionfolk, however long that takes.

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