Darkgael Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Hello fairly new to the Choasium Forums mainly sticking around the Call of Cthulhu end but have loved Stormbringer since the first edition when I picked it up in high school so is there any chance of a new edition ? or is there something with the IP that has changed ? or is someone else gonna bring out a version ? I would prefer a Choasium release but would like any info anyone has on the subject would be great thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiorgan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 @MOB @Jason Durallplease, correct me if I say anything wrong. My understanding is that: In theory, Chaosium would be happy to release a new Stormbringer but that needs a Conjunction of the Million Spheres... ... they must reach a new licensing agreement with Michael Moorcock ... they need to fit this among their other projects So, I guess this is not happening anytime soon in this plane of existence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I suspect they'd be willing to add some staff and/or freelancers, if they got the Eternal Champion license back in-house... 😉 2 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, smiorgan said: @MOB @Jason Durallplease, correct me if I say anything wrong. My understanding is that: In theory, Chaosium would be happy to release a new Stormbringer but that needs a Conjunction of the Million Spheres... ... they must reach a new licensing agreement with Michael Moorcock ... they need to fit this among their other projects So, I guess this is not happening anytime soon in this plane of existence. If we got 1 and 2 we'd make 3 happen. But with all the will in the world, the RPG rights are not currently available. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiorgan Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, MOB said: If we got 1 and 2 we'd make 3 happen. But with all the will in the world, the RPG rights are not currently available. Thanks for the clarification, depressing as it may be. But there is too much exciting stuff happening at Chaosium to be depressed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsanford Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Darkgael said: Hello fairly new to the Choasium Forums mainly sticking around the Call of Cthulhu end but have loved Stormbringer since the first edition when I picked it up in high school so is there any chance of a new edition ? or is there something with the IP that has changed ? or is someone else gonna bring out a version ? I would prefer a Choasium release but would like any info anyone has on the subject would be great thanx Do you happen to read French? There is a French game out called Mournblade that’s just gorgeous. Don’t know about the rules though. Quote Check out our homebrew rules for freeform magic in BRP -> No reason for Ars Magica players to have all the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkgael Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 nope don't read French but at least I know the game is not gonna happen anytime soon well here's for keeping hope things come together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsanford Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 You know, now that I think of it, I think their is a Spanish version of Stormbringer out there. Not a Spanish version of a Chaosium or Mongoose product but an independent product. Quote Check out our homebrew rules for freeform magic in BRP -> No reason for Ars Magica players to have all the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vile Traveller Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 4:24 AM, rsanford said: You know, now that I think of it, I think their is a Spanish version of Stormbringer out there. Not a Spanish version of a Chaosium or Mongoose product but an independent product. Moorcock doesn't seem to be fundamentally set against licencing his IP to companies that pay him their royalty fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Vile said: Moorcock doesn't seem to be fundamentally set against licencing his IP to companies that pay him their royalty fees. IIRC, the Eternal Champion game rights are tied up with the BBC as part of their Hawkmoon miniseries. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hionhurn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 It would be great to see Stormbringer return especially given the interest in retro games and for those discovering Elric through the forthcoming Amazon project. It would need new products and some actual plays on YouTube would help get the word out. I personally saw a rise in cthulhu games amongst local d&d fans after Critical Role did their CoC game with Taliesin Jaffe as Keeper👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hionhurn Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I think it would also be useful to have products that would make a good transition to the Virtual Table Top as well as physical books/pdf, as these ways of playing are increasing in popularity in the current environment and are likely to remain in use now that folks are familiar with them. Maybe official Tokens as well as cardboard pawns in appropriate art, hopefully with a stylised feel to them in a similar but not identical feel to TSR's Planescape art by Tony DiTerlizzi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 @Hionhurn your VTT & AP/streaming ideas look fine, but (as per @Jason Durall above (and n.b. he's Chaosium!)) it appears you need to work those via BBC, or whoever they run the games-license through, if/when they do it. Until/unless it comes "home" to Chaosium, their hands are tied. 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurgleHH Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 It is a shame, that the licence is given to an unknown company without a English release. Only french. Michael Moorcock had these love for France. Hope to see a new version in the Mongoose tradition. This was a very good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugen Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 10:37 PM, NurgleHH said: It is a shame, that the licence is given to an unknown company without a English release. Only french. Michael Moorcock had these love for France. Hope to see a new version in the Mongoose tradition. This was a very good work. Hey, it's not an unknown company, it's... well, even from a French point of view, it's a very small company, with only 2 published games and an upcoming Hawkmoon one, which I think means their first game, WasteLand, is dead, as it is very close to Hawkmoon's themes and mood. @rsanfordThe game uses the company's own system, CYD, (Chose Your Die). It's a very classical d10+attribute+skill > Difficulty system. Rolls over Difficulty+10 are "Exceptional" successes, and rolls under Difficulty-10 are fumbles. It's possible to chose to roll a d20 instead of a d10 (hence the system's name), but odd results will count as 0, and 1s and 11s will result in automatic failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mobile Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Just a quick comment to say I would love to see a revised edition by Chaosium. It's in my list of games I want to try. Worst case scenario I'll find a way to obtain an older edition. If I'm really lucky, by the time I'm ready to try it (after Beyond the Mountains of Madness campaign 😁), Chaosium comes out with a revision edition including the Rogue Mistress campaign. Fingers crossed! Edited January 26, 2021 by Mat Mobile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Mat Mobile said: Just a quick comment to say I would love to see a revised edition by Chaosium. It's in my list of games I want to try. Worst case scenario I'll find a way to obtain an older edition. If I'm really lucky, by the time I'm ready to try it (after Beyond the Mountains of Madness campaign 😁), Chaosium comes out with a revision edition including the Rogue Mistress campaign. Fingers crossed! As noted earlier in the thread, the RPG rights are not currently available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mobile Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, MOB said: As noted earlier in the thread, the RPG rights are not currently available. Thanks for the response! I did see that. 😔 Just showing interest in case they do become available in the coming years. 🤞 Edited January 26, 2021 by Mat Mobile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDee Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I would love to see a new version, fully embrace the multiverse, and various settings etc. We do not need all the gods statted up, like Agak etc, which is pretty pointless. Their abilities are whatever the GM needs them to be at the time. Oh..and some decent art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 4/15/2020 at 9:49 PM, Hionhurn said: Maybe official Tokens as well as cardboard pawns in appropriate art, hopefully with a stylised feel to them in a similar but not identical feel to TSR's Planescape art by Tony DiTerlizzi. These are underway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 12:56 PM, Sir Pom-Pom said: As others have said before: it's very difficult if not nearly impossible. FAQ: What issues did Michael Moorcock have with Chaosium? https://www.multiverse.org/forum/fabulous-harbours-%E2%97%A6-welcome-to-moorcock-s-miscellany/faq/15384-faq-what-issues-did-michael-moorcock-have-with-chaosium All of those issues were with the old management, who are no longer with the company. Chaosium is essentially a new company, fiscally stable and responsible, and the company has done much to rectify the mistakes of the past, even going above and beyond what could be reasonably expected. I cannot provide more details, but a major goal has been to re-establish goodwill with the Moorcocks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurgleHH Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason D said: I cannot provide more details, but a major goal has been to re-establish goodwill with the Moorcocks. I think you should hurry. Moorcock and also his fans are not young ones and the audience for Stormbringer is slowly fading away like dust in the wind. And with newer systems in the RPG-World the chance for release of the old stormbringer is becoming only a wish of few survivers, I'm afraid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 23 hours ago, NurgleHH said: I think you should hurry. Moorcock and also his fans are not young ones and the audience for Stormbringer is slowly fading away like dust in the wind. And with newer systems in the RPG-World the chance for release of the old stormbringer is becoming only a wish of few survivers, I'm afraid Moorcock's works were just re-released less than a decade ago by Gollancz, and are still in print. The BBC Hawkmoon series will likely spike readers to that novel series and associated Moorcock books. I have very little doubt that a new edition of Stormbringer would find an audience among longtime fans as well as newcomers to the character and his amazing universe. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurgleHH Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Jason D said: Moorcock's works were just re-released less than a decade ago by Gollancz, and are still in print. The BBC Hawkmoon series will likely spike readers to that novel series and associated Moorcock books. I have very little doubt that a new edition of Stormbringer would find an audience among longtime fans as well as newcomers to the character and his amazing universe. We will see... when it ever will happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) On 2/18/2021 at 10:40 PM, Jason D said: Moorcock's works were just re-released less than a decade ago by Gollancz, and are still in print. The BBC Hawkmoon series will likely spike readers to that novel series and associated Moorcock books. I have very little doubt that a new edition of Stormbringer would find an audience among longtime fans as well as newcomers to the character and his amazing universe. I have to admit that a new edition of Stormbringer by Chaosium (especially with the much improved quality of the products under the new management) would feel like things are right again. In my youth, Chaosium was Call of Cthulhu, RuneQuest, Pendragon and Stormbringer (with a good nod to SuperWorld). It feels like almost everyone is back home. Edited February 20, 2021 by DreadDomain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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