QuestWorlds SRD

[yamsur 55]

Ian said above that he preferred to discuss on FaceBook, I don't like much and understands nothing about the FB interface, but if he wants to discuss there you have to follow him otherwise the discussions will be sterile.

 

[Hteph 63]

While I admit it is his prerogative to ignore the in-house discussion boards, I still wont touch FB with a stick so if this is screaming into the void, so be it.

[Ian Cooper 1,125]

On 12/15/2020 at 8:40 PM, craigm said:

Adding to this: perhaps some guidelines for where you'd want to have a 3, 6, 9, ... M, M2 vs 5, 10, 15, M, M^2…  might help as well. When I compared this against the published rules for HeroQuest I wondered why the bump as so large.

(And I wasn't sure where to put the discussion about it.)

Sure. Maths.

This Any Dice programme is an update of the old HeroQuest one, but the math is not *significantly* different.  One of the things you will be able to see is that in opposed D20 systems 3/6/9 doesn't really move the needle very much. it's about a 6/9/18 % improvement. If we move to 5/10/15 that equates to about a 10/20/30 % improvement.

Given you get one augment for an augment to be meaningful it needs to be 5 or 10. You won't notice the impact of 3.

Skipping the big jump makes it easier both in terms of math, and avoiding the large change in probabilities in one move.

So I would move on from 3/6/9, it was well intentioned, because it recognized the way numbers work in opposed D20, but it was too conservative.

That also means moving numbers back to 10 and 15 to make the same progression of advancement to reach a mastery. It does mean that a -10 penalty means you can't succeed with an ability, you need to try something else, whereas before it required a bigger penalty to do that. But again, that makes penalties more impactful.

[Ian Cooper 1,125]

Why the jump to M2? Well, HQ has always had that jump to M2 there. It is useful because it represents the same thing as the old 'complete victory" or "complete defeat". It essentially says: try another way, if you want to defeat that.

Could we just keep going up in 5s? Also Maths. Once you get past +M, it gets into quite marginal differences quite fast

10M vs 10 85% odds of success

15M vs 10 90% chance of success

20M vs 10 97% chance of success

5M2 vs 10 98% chance of success

10M2 vs 10 98% chance of success

So M2 is really the break point for "you can't"

But we will discuss the odds, and if folks want to use the extra increments for a resistance, of course they can

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Ian Cooper

[Hteph 63]

I do understand the “need” for the M2, it is just the hockeystick shape thats jars me a bit, I mean it is not difficult to memorize, but it is another one, and a more natural progression would make that easier.

And as you say the diminishing return in probability is really glaring. 

I have been shopping around for a system to use for a superpower-centric campaign with scalability,  crunch and freeform at the same time and your work on the SRD has really made me root for QuestWorld.

[creativehum 302]

A question about Augments and the Bump in relation to this clause: "Given you get one augment for an augment ..."

I understand "one Augment" has been the law of the land for some time. But honestly, my sweet spot was back in the Hero Wars days, where a CP could stack as many Augments as he wanted as long as they made emotional and narrative sense. I didn't have any problems with anyone scanning their sheet endlessly for Augments. It was all intuitive and emotionally based.

With that in mind,@Ian Cooper, do you have any thoughts about what would be the proper set of bonuses for augmentation? Or does the whole thing become too elastic for you, without any sense of grounding to work from?

[Kenrae 2]

15 hours ago, creativehum said:

A question about Augments and the Bump in relation to this clause: "Given you get one augment for an augment ..."

I understand "one Augment" has been the law of the land for some time. But honestly, my sweet spot was back in the Hero Wars days, where a CP could stack as many Augments as he wanted as long as they made emotional and narrative sense. I didn't have any problems with anyone scanning their sheet endlessly for Augments. It was all intuitive and emotionally based.

With that in mind,@Ian Cooper, do you have any thoughts about what would be the proper set of bonuses for augmentation? Or does the whole thing become too elastic for you, without any sense of grounding to work from?

I'd say in that case keep the numbers you're already using.

[creativehum 302]

Thank you for your comment.

Some more context:

I moved along with the game line with each new edition. 

It has been in the last few weeks I’ve begun comparing the different versions of the Hero Wars/Heroquest line that I realize I found the earlier versions easier to run. 

Given that a lot of thought has been put into the SRD I though I’d check with Ian on the matter. 

I would like to run a Glorantha campaign using Six Seasons in Sartar and am deciding which rules system to use (RQG or a version of HW/HQ/QW) and wanted to ask Ian about using multiple Aguments.

[BruceMri 9]

It's been long enough since I downloaded from GitHub that I need a reminder, I'm afraid. How can I download an actual RTF file rather than this? Thanks in advance; I know I'll feel foolish when I get the answer.

[David Scott 3,524]

@BruceMri You've opened the rtf file in your browser. Rather than open the file, right-click / command-click the link and save the linked file. Alternately just save that browser page making sure it ends in .rtf.

[soltakss 4,699]

13 hours ago, BruceMri said:

It's been long enough since I downloaded from GitHub that I need a reminder, I'm afraid. How can I download an actual RTF file rather than this? Thanks in advance; I know I'll feel foolish when I get the answer.

Ah, line numbers in an editor, I remember those!

Save it and open it in Word, or some other office suite, most allow you to open RTFs.

[BruceMri 9]

Finally got it, thanks.

 

[Steve 653]

We're up to version 0.91 now. See https://github.com/ChaosiumInc/QuestWorlds/blob/master/docs/QuestWorlds.pdf