Next God and Goddesses timetable

[svensson]

Just checking for sake of my credit card...

Is the next volume of Gods and Goddesses on schedule for March?

[Oracle]

 

[svensson]

@Oracle Yes, I'm aware of the announcement, but I'm wondering if there are any delays in the last couple months.

This has happened a couple times, and I am just curious.

[Squaredeal Sten]

The last book went on sake promptly.

I think as Chaosium shifted printers, and the COVID19 shocks wore off, and the Suez Canal shutdown is history, the logistics have gotten stable again.  Now if the Huthis would just stop attacking ships in the Red Sea..... but no, we can't live all the time in a fantasy world.

 

[Agentorange]

8 hours ago, Squaredeal Sten said:

The last book went on sake promptly.

I think as Chaosium shifted printers, and the COVID19 shocks wore off, and the Suez Canal shutdown is history, the logistics have gotten stable again.  Now if the Huthis would just stop attacking ships in the Red Sea..... but no, we can't live all the time in a fantasy world.

 

Suez canal shutdown ? wasn't that 1956 ?
oh, you mean the other  more recent one......😁

[Oracle]

12 hours ago, svensson said:

@Oracle Yes, I'm aware of the announcement, but I'm wondering if there are any delays in the last couple months.

This has happened a couple times, and I am just curious.

Yes, I can understand that, but as already mentioned, last releases were always as announced (albeit not necessarily for all warehouses ...), and with the recent announcements for the new Pendragon releases I'm pretty optimistic, that the Lunar Cults book will happen in time. (They never said, if beginning, middle or end of March 😉)

Edited February 23, 2024 by Oracle

[jajagappa]

12 hours ago, svensson said:

Yes, I'm aware of the announcement, but I'm wondering if there are any delays in the last couple months.

Given that they had similarly announced the Call of Cthulhu Arkham book with a February release date, and that just went on sale yesterday, there does not appear to be any reason why you'd expect a delay?

I don't believe they make the announcements until the books are printed and they have reasonable confidence of when the books will reach the warehouses. They won't set a final release date until all the warehouses have stock in hand - expect that about 1-2 weeks before release.

[svensson]

Oh, I'm WELL aware that Chaosium is allergic to an 'Upcoming Release Date' listing and has always been on the fuzzy side of vague when estimating due dates. Tradition and all that... 😁

But occasionally when I know a big month of game spending is coming up, I like to check in with the producers just to see if the estimate has anything to do with reality. I realize that Acts of Wakboth happen and something misses its date. That's all part of the book business.

[metcalph]

The only thing that makes me pause is that the cover piccie of the Lunar Book has not been released yet... 

[Techpriest]

2 minutes ago, metcalph said:

The only thing that makes me pause is that the cover piccie of the Lunar Book has not been released yet... 

It has been released though? It's on the Well of Daliath. 

[Jason Farrell]

21 minutes ago, metcalph said:

The only thing that makes me pause is that the cover piccie of the Lunar Book has not been released yet... 

The cover image was released in December.

[Jason Farrell]

19 minutes ago, Techpriest said:

It has been released though? It's on the Well of Daliath. 

That's a rather obscure spot for the average fan.  It's not just there.  It's also in a blog entry from December, and was shown on Facebook.

[jajagappa]

The Chaosium blog entry with cover pic is here: Coming in March: Cults of the Lunar Way

[jajagappa]

On 2/23/2024 at 9:45 AM, svensson said:

Oh, I'm WELL aware that Chaosium is allergic to an 'Upcoming Release Date' listing and has always been on the fuzzy side of vague when estimating due dates. Tradition and all that... 😁

Actually, I think they've become quite good at providing the non-fuzzy Upcoming Release Date - at the point when they are ready. The trigger for that is I believe is when they've finished printing the books and have dispatched them to the warehouses. Only at that point do they have solid timeframes for shipping to, arrival at and stocking the warehouses. That seems to be when they are comfortable in preparing their marketing campaign and saying the release is expected in XXXX.

[Jason Farrell]

17 hours ago, jajagappa said:

Actually, I think they've become quite good at providing the non-fuzzy Upcoming Release Date - at the point when they are ready. The trigger for that is I believe is when they've finished printing the books and have dispatched them to the warehouses. Only at that point do they have solid timeframes for shipping to, arrival at and stocking the warehouses. That seems to be when they are comfortable in preparing their marketing campaign and saying the release is expected in XXXX.

I find it hard to believe that bulk buyers (game/book stores) don't have an actual date at this point.  But for some reason, it's almost March and they haven't deigned to share it with the rest of us.

[jajagappa]

1 hour ago, Jason Farrell said:

But for some reason, it's almost March and they haven't deigned to share it with the rest of us.

Perhaps because they are just getting Arkham out the door??? It's not their only product line.

[Squaredeal Sten]

On 2/24/2024 at 7:55 PM, jajagappa said:

....The trigger for that is I believe is when they've finished printing the books and have dispatched them to the warehouses. Only at that point do they have solid timeframes for shipping to, arrival at......

More like when the ships dock on all warehouse continents & Britain (except recently Ausralia)  and the delivery dates to the warehouses are certain.  Recall when we were given tracking data links for at least one ship, but still not a firm release date (at that time).

For years we have been told they don't give uncertain release dates because there is no upside. They have been  pilloried  when something is delayed but not thanked when it goes smoothly.  

Let's thank them at ChaosiumCon.

 

Edited February 28, 2024 by Squaredeal Sten
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[mfbrandi]

14 hours ago, Jason Farrell said:

I find it hard to believe that bulk buyers (game/book stores) don't have an actual date at this point.

Well, some shops may claim to have an approximate date — but they are probably just cynically trying to get your “pre-order”. My guess is that the shops are expecting the re-covered Glorantha Sourcebook first (as I have seen a couple showing the art for that but a placeholder for The Lunar Way).

Just think of it as a pint of Guinness.

[Jason Farrell]

23 hours ago, jajagappa said:

Perhaps because they are just getting Arkham out the door??? It's not their only product line.

What does that have to do with shops having a date but not announcing one for direct customers?  Quoting only part of my post doesn't make the rest of it disappear.

Edited February 26, 2024 by Jason Farrell

[jajagappa]

55 minutes ago, Jason Farrell said:

What does that have to do with shops having a date but not announcing one for direct customers? 

Maybe it allows the shops to plan their own launch and marketing events? 

[Nick Brooke]

If I understand it correctly, the question is: “Why don’t Friendly Local Game Stores share perfect information about when their distributors will be able to order and deliver product from Chaosium’s warehouses, when the Chaosium itself doesn’t yet know when those products will reach those warehouses?”

But that’s obviously a silly question, so I must be missing some nuance.

FLGSs and online retailers make up release dates all the time. They’re often bollocks. You can believe them or not - it’s a free country - but they definitely didn’t come from Chaosium.

[soltakss]

On 2/26/2024 at 10:29 PM, Nick Brooke said:

If I understand it correctly, the question is: “Why don’t Friendly Local Game Stores share perfect information about when their distributors will be able to order and deliver product from Chaosium’s warehouses, when the Chaosium itself doesn’t yet know when those products will reach those warehouses?”

But that’s obviously a silly question, so I must be missing some nuance.

I think that people think that Chaosium shares release information with games stores before they share it with normal people.

 

[g33k]

 

On 2/25/2024 at 11:37 AM, Jason Farrell said:

I find it hard to believe that bulk buyers (game/book stores) don't have an actual date at this point.  But for some reason, it's almost March and they haven't deigned to share it with the rest of us.

Game shops mostly get their info -- and their inventory -- from distributors, not directly from publishers.

I expect the game-store near where @Jeff lives, or the one by @MOB, have some sort of extra info; but generally the thousands of FLGS's around the world do not.
I expect the shops with this privileged info treat it as privileged, and do not advertise it widely.

At this point in time, I believe Chaosium isn't notifying availability of CoG:Lunars because it hasn't yet cleared local Port Authorities, Customs,  & etc in all ports.  It's still possible for a Teamsters Strike, or a glitch with Customs, to introduce delays.

(n.b. I am not Chaosium.  I only report the things I surmise, from what has previously been stated.  Sometimes I "surmise" very badly.)