Erol of Backford Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 There is a little write up about the Servants of the Almighty Dragons in the Sartar Companion. p.16 Were these possibly the Orlanthi Draconic Mystics for Argrath? Full members can learn Auld Wyrmish, the language of dragons. Are there current 1600-1630 Gloranthians that speak Auld Wyrmish? Ormelius Dragonchide only spoke Auld Wyrmish at 20%... The Servants of the Almighty Dragon are aware of Forang Forash and view him with a combination of reverence and fear. The few members who know of Laughing Singer hold him in awe. Then the Laughing Singer told Forang Farosh the meaning of the marks on his body that no one else could see. What are these? We also have the Red Dragon Servant in Karse and to a lessor degree other locations, a large monastery in Karse, Heortland; Smaller temple in Tarsh and shrine outside Furthest, many far overseas. Devotional martial arts and part of the Draconic orders. Possibly the Scholar Wyrm, Windwhistler, Eyes-Shut and Forang Forash are all interested in seeing the EWF be rejuvenated? Any thoughts on both the Red Dragon School in Ormsgone Valley and the Long Mountain Dragon School? Are there other sources for groups of secret or hidden dragon friends in Sartar or the Holy Country. The Dragon of Jarn, Two Face, Tink, Dragon's Eye, Yerezum Storn are a few detailed encounters, are there others that are obvious to add to this list? What Empire of the Wyrms Friends location or ruins are active in Rune Quest beyond what is mentioned above? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revilo Divad Of Dyoll Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 IIRC, the Servants of the Almighty Dragons are from Masters of Luck and Death, a Heroquest supplement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 It'd be nice to see the guest list, thank you Mr. Divad. Where is the White Dragon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: Where is the White Dragon? In the Dragon's Eye, of course! 😉 Note: I think that's the only place that a White Dragon was ever referenced - maybe the authors weren't happy with the Elemental Dragons? (The Blue Dragon exists, too, but she stretches out across Peloria. And the Gold/Sun Dragon is either Godunya or the Sun Dragon cult.) But why I say the Dragon's Eye is that the Inhuman King is also a dragon, lives at the center of Dragon Pass, and is forgotten by all the dragon hunters (invisible in plain sight - very fitting for White). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 There is Ormfang, an ice-covered draconic peak in the Rockwoods south of Balazar which may be a True Dragon Lair. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, jajagappa said: The Blue Dragon exists, too, but she stretches out across Peloria Seems like should be near Sartar, just sayin. White and Gold make sense but maybe Windwhistler is actually a dream dragon of sorts? 2 hours ago, Joerg said: There is Ormfang, an ice-covered draconic peak in the Rockwoods south of Balazar which may be a True Dragon Lair. Yellow or orange... or start with silver, copper... Likely there is a cave up there with a dream dragon in it waiting to be discovered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Erol of Backford said: Seems like should be near Sartar Not Sartar, but Dragon Pass. She's on the other side of the Dragonspine (sometimes called Jaldon's Wrong River there, but still it's the headwaters of the Oslir). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 Anyone able to guess the size of the dragon skull? I assume you pass under it as you pass on the trail as it looks like its wedged between larger rock(?) formations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) Is this still being looked at or did it get kicked down the road? I think the notice was from August 2020. "Chaosium is pleased to announce that The Dragon’s Eye, a new sourcebook for RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha, is in development." Also curious if there are any sketch maps of Dragon's Eye or High Wyrm floating around... There is talk of trade with dragonewts in Mr. Montgomery's works and a trade post being set up with High Wyrm... Edited June 20, 2023 by Erol of Backford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 3/10/2023 at 12:24 AM, Erol of Backford said: We also have the Red Dragon Servant in Karse and to a lessor degree other locations, a large monastery in Karse, Heortland; Smaller temple in Tarsh and shrine outside Furthest, many far overseas. Devotional martial arts and part of the Draconic orders. Which book/zine is this mentioned in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 hours ago, ajs said: Which book/zine is this mentioned in? Arcane Lore p41 and it was for the HW:RPG or HQ1.0. Quote Red Dragon Servant (of Krisa Oraba, of Dragon Pass) Martial Arts Band which had come to Dragon Pass from the Far East. • Manifestation. 3 • Strength. 5/10 • Powers. Meditate Skill, Sword Combat Talent (W5); Refute Attack Talent (W5), Strike Dead with Sword Talent, Avoid Attack Talent, Heal Self Talent. • Worshippers. 2,000 • Location. Large monastery in Karse, Heortland; Smaller temple in Tarsh, with dojo outside of Furthest; many worshippers presumably far overseas. • Secrets. Devotional martial arts. • Connections: Are a part of the Draconic orders. Never really caught people's imagination and it was quietly forgotten. It could be used as a cult that develops after the Dragonrise but I have a hard time believing it existed significantly before then. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 (edited) On 3/11/2023 at 3:22 AM, Joerg said: There is Ormfang, an ice-covered draconic peak in the Rockwoods south of Balazar which may be a True Dragon Lair. Maybe this is dragon that ate Bagtrap from the Stafford House Campaign or possibly it's dream? And the pass is named after him on some maps... though IIRC he appears again in Pavis at a later date so possibly DI saved him or brought him back... the Bronze Dragon... The dragon was satisfied and departed. The caravan continued onward and reached a safe place before nightfall. There Joh asked who the man was, and he said then that everyone should call that part of the trail after the person. So now it is called Bagtrap’s Trail. House Campaign P.56 Interesting. Edited February 16 by Erol of Backford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 3/11/2023 at 4:31 PM, Erol of Backford said: I assume you pass under it as you pass on the trail Yes - you do this in one of the Sartar Rising books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 11 hours ago, Akhôrahil said: Yes - you do this in one of the Sartar Rising books. I saw that on the Sartar map. Who knows how large it is? Which Dragon's skull is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: I saw that on the Sartar map. Who knows how large it is? Which Dragon's skull is it? IIRC there was an illustration in the HeroQuest 1st ed publication Dragon Pass: Land of Doom - a Gazetteer to Kerofinela. The caravan path goes underneath it, approaching it from the southeast means to walk right into its maw. The Dragonspine Ridges are the remnants of Sh'harkarzeel's spine after Orlanth beheaded that dragon, from where Orlanth carried off that head, using it in many a myth. This head seems too small to be that item, or an incarnation or dream of that item. No idea whether it was in place before the EWF ruled in the region, possibly an atonement gift by a draconic hero of Orlanth (such as Obduran the Flyer). Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: I saw that on the Sartar map. Who knows how large it is? Which Dragon's skull is it? Gathering Thunder references Dragon Pass: Land of Thunder, which I don't have. It does indicate that the skull is 300 yards long, which seems reasonable to me. So it's probably not to scale in this map. Edited February 21 by Akhôrahil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) From Dragon Pass, Land of Thunder: Quote Dragon Skull Skeletal landmark at the highest point of Dragon Pass (A3) Sources: History of the Heortling Peoples, Jonstown Compendium. A huge dragon skull, two hundred yards across, perches over a cave between the two cliffs to either side. The trail goes underneath and is big enough for several wide roads. The tales record how Alakoring or Orvanshagor, or occasionally Orlanth himself, put the dragon skull there. Among the beast-men (and Grazers) Ironhoof, centaur King of Dragon Pass, put it there. It is impossible to cross the Pass except by going through the gigantic skull, with its wicked yards-long incisors. While inside it, everyone feels a little bit afraid or cautious. Voices are deadened, but return as echoes; people who listen carefully hear echoes without voices. Flares and torches do not work correctly, so the light on the other side feels especially welcome. But as this HeroQuest 1 supplement is not canonical, you probably may have to take this information with a grain of salt ... Edited February 22 by Oracle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Woah, wait, the ACTUAL dragon pass has a giant dragon skull over it?! I am just learning about this now! Is this still canon, or is it just a specific version that Oracle cited that might be no longer canonical? Also, on another note, since this is apparently the only crossing possible - is it heavily fortified on either side, or is the "only" a bit of an exaggeration? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Sir_Godspeed said: Woah, wait, the ACTUAL dragon pass has a giant dragon skull over it?! I am just learning about this now! Is this still canon, or is it just a specific version that Oracle cited that might be no longer canonical? It has always been part of Glorantha. The actual Dragon Pass is tiny compared to the wider Dragon Pass that surrounds it. 1 hour ago, Sir_Godspeed said: Also, on another note, since this is apparently the only crossing possible - is it heavily fortified on either side, or is the "only" a bit of an exaggeration? It is a dragon skull and has no fortifications that I know of. People could try and take control of the pass, stopping people from passing through, but the Dragonewts might have something to say about that. Someone tried that in one of my campaigns and the skull just took a big chunk out of them as a warning. 2 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, soltakss said: It has always been part of Glorantha. The actual Dragon Pass is tiny compared to the wider Dragon Pass that surrounds it. 2 hours ago, Sir_Godspeed said: I knew that Dragon Pass was named after an actual pass, I just never knew there was a huge f***-off skull nested above it. How is this not on some book cover somewhere, that's metal as hell! XD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/21/2024 at 11:05 PM, Oracle said: From Dragon Pass, Land of Thunder: But as this HeroQuest 1 supplement is not canonical, you probably may have to take this information with a grain of salt ... Ah, but back in the good old days, it was, my friend, it was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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