Corrections thread - Cults of RuneQuest: The Lunar Way

[MOB]

With the [Chaosium Con pre-]release of Cults of RuneQuest: The Lunar Way, this thread is to catch any typos or errors spotted. Please note them here, quoting the relevant page number, the error, and the suggested correction. We will correct the PDF file and the print file for reprints.

IMPORTANT NOTE: this is not a thread for questions or discussion of the rules, we are specifically looking for errors and typos only. Please take discussion to another thread.

[Mark Mohrfield]

Page 7 under Chaos Gods: thinghas should be thing has.

[Brian Duguid]

Multiple pages throughout: incorrect apostrophes - lefthand curly when it should be righthand curly (e.g. Yelm's, page 3; Sedenya's, page 23); and the same issue with quotation marks (e.g. "Young Life" and "Spindle Hag" on page 27).

[Richard S.]

Page 31, Shield is included in the list of rune magic available to Seven Mothers associates. Hwarin Dalthippa's associate description only grants Shield to chief/high priests. Either Shield should be removed from the rune magic section, or the restriction on who can learn it should be removed, depending on what was intended.

Edited May 16 by Richard S.

[PhilHibbs]

Not a text issue, but the file name is inconsistent with prior volumes:

[metcalph]

• Is Illumination a requirement to become an initiate of the Red Emperor (p113)?  For they are initiates of the Red Goddess (p114) who must be illuminated for initiation (p122).
• What are the Rays of Piercing Truth (p95)?  They sound nasty.  They are not in the Red Book of Magic nor RuneQuest: Glorantha.

[RandomNumber]

17 hours ago, PhilHibbs said:

Not a text issue, but the file name is inconsistent with prior volumes:

Good spot. JC authors take note...😉

[RandomNumber]

p3 Prehistoric Moons, first three paragraphs appear to be an ever-so-slightly different drafting of "The Lunar Way" on p6

[Tindalos]

Page 24: Lesilla Era, should be 9000 years long, not 900 to match the dates given.

[glarkhag]

Irrippi ontor runic associations lists fire/sky (p. 80) but the art work uses the light rune (p. 78)

[Brian Duguid]

This may or may not be an error, but ...

Page 100-101: "The Dark Side" - this is an expanded version of the text in The Guide to Glorantha, page 726, where it is an in-world text attributed to Hrunth vi Osbonn, Azilos, circa 1620. Possible error: missing attribution. Not knowing that this is an in-world text will colour the reader's view of its veracity.

[Rodney Dangerduck]

Jakaleel Rune Priest Question, page 89    (clarification needed?)

Assume a PC Assistant Shaman with a POW 18 does the "fetch thing" and succeeds.  They give a reasonable 8 POW to their fetch, dropping their personal POW to 10.

Do they qualify to be a Priest? 

1. Yes, so long as their combined POW remains 18 or higher.
2. No, they have to wait until their own personal  POW reaches 18.

 

 

Edited May 24 by Rodney Dangerduck
Clarified & simplified

[davecake]

None of the cult statuses for Hwarin Dalthippa require the cultist to be a woman, and lay members explicitly may be male, but all statuses above normal initiate are assumed to be female in the description (Shield Maiden, Priestess, Daughter of the Moon). This could do with a clarification, though it is noted that Daughters of the Moon can be male (just they find it more difficult). 

And not just to the gender of the cultist, but also their potential spouse in the passage below. 

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They may keep their husband if they are already married, and if he is at least an initiate in an elemental cult. If he has not become a priest in his cult by the time of two years after the Moon Daughter’s ascension to their status, they must divorce—and they may not marry again.

 

Edited May 24 by davecake

[davecake]

Yara Aranis is of course always depicted with 6 arms and 2 legs. 

However, instead of the Sprout Arms spell (or a stackable version) to give her worshippers potentially 6 arms and 2 legs, she has the Spiderlimbs spell that gives her worshippers 4 arms and 4 legs! The spare legs (and the association with spiders) both seem rather unexpected! Why did this change from Sprout Arms? 

Also, the spell has the Darkness and Beast Runes, neither of which Yara Aranis has. Though she is given the Moon, Earth and Death Runes, and appears to have no Earth magic of any kind. 

 

 

Edited May 24 by davecake

[mfbrandi]

3 minutes ago, davecake said:

Yara Aranis … has the Spiderlimbs spell … The spare legs (and the association with spiders) both seem rather unexpected!

Perhaps the spell is unexpected, but surely not the association with spiders. The clue is in the name, no? Yara Aranis.

[Rodney Dangerduck]

Another clarification request. 

For Lunar Cyclical Rune Magic, what does "available" mean?  e.g., page 31, Black Moon, "Only 1-point Rune spells available, and no spells stackable."

Example: During a Full Moon, my Lunar PC, who is outside of the Glowline, casts Shield 3 with Extension 3.  it lasts a week!  Actually, since the duration is doubled, it lasts 2 weeks?  Woohoo!

Then, a few days later, it becomes a Dark Moon.  Neither Shield 3 nor Extension 3 are "available" (strictly speaking, they aren't stackable).

1. The spells remain in effect for the full two weeks
2. The spells go away.
3. It drops to Shield 1 but will cycle through Shield 2 and Shield 3, then down to 2 and 1, as the Moon waxes and wanes.

 

[Jason Farrell]

I would be shocked if the answer is anything but #1. 

[AndreJarosch]

5 hours ago, Rodney Dangerduck said:

Another clarification request. 

For Lunar Cyclical Rune Magic, what does "available" mean?  e.g., page 31, Black Moon, "Only 1-point Rune spells available, and no spells stackable."

Example: During a Full Moon, my Lunar PC, who is outside of the Glowline, casts Shield 3 with Extension 3.  it lasts a week!  Actually, since the duration is doubled, it lasts 2 weeks?  Woohoo!

Then, a few days later, it becomes a Dark Moon.  Neither Shield 3 nor Extension 3 are "available" (strictly speaking, they aren't stackable).

1. The spells remain in effect for the full two weeks
2. The spells go away.
3. It drops to Shield 1 but will cycle through Shield 2 and Shield 3, then down to 2 and 1, as the Moon waxes and wanes.

 

IMHO this limits only new spells thatare being cast, not the ones already in effect. 

[Rodney Dangerduck]

6 hours ago, AndreJarosch said:

IMHO this limits only new spells thatare being cast, not the ones already in effect. 

While I agree with you and @Jason Farrell, the fact that you start with "IMHO" shows that the wording should be clearer. 

[BakerDE]

Not an error but possible omission: conversion to Lunar weapons (p30), Lunar weapons are listed as Kopis, Sickle, Rhomphaia, and Sickle-sword. (p34, 141, 144) but no guidance (apart from Broadsword to Kopis) is given. Presumably Broadsword = Kopis, Dagger =  Sickle, Greatsword = Rhomphaia. The Sickle-sword has no cororolly but W&E says it used by Elite Heartland troops (W&P68) so maybe is not available for conversion.

Crossing publications - should this list include Great Axe = Lunar Crescent-headed Axe (W&E p60/61), Moon Blade no cororolly  (W&Ep60/65)?

It is not clear if if conversion reduces the converted skill by 15% per training session or if this remains the same.

Edited May 25 by BakerDE
Note on conversion reduction

[davecake]

 

On 5/24/2024 at 11:40 PM, mfbrandi said:

Perhaps the spell is unexpected, but surely not the association with spiders. The clue is in the name, no? Yara Aranis.

The name Aranis is not derived from the Latin Aranea, but from Sanskrit meaning 'the one turning around', which obviously makes so much sense. (I know this thread should be moved, but I don't know how to do that). 

[davecake]

Irrippi Onto - the Example text for the spell Commune With (Planet) says that in addition to augmenting the Rune score, the spell also grants the same bonus to spells that use that Rune (or Runes). This is not stated in the spell description, and increasing the Rune would not normally change the casting chance. Is the Example correct, even though this is not mentioned in the text? And does this apply to the very similar Discern (Constellation) spell as well? And do these two spells stack if applicable?

And are they both effective if their 'subject' is in the Underworld? 

That the two more or less identical have two different Techniques (Command vs Summon) is just confusing and somewhat arbitrary, so it seems like one or the other should be an error. 

[davecake]

Irrippi Onto - The sentence 'They may never marry an initiate, Priest or Lord of an elemental cult, but they may marry Sky- or Moon- worshippers.' is ambiguous and confusing, as Sky and Moon are both elemental runes. Does it mean 'may never marry worshippers of elements other than Sky or Moon, may never marry worshippers of other elemental deities unless they also worship the Sky or Moon? Ie if a potential spouse worships both Fire or Sky and also another element, either as part of the same cult (for example, Hon-Eel, who has both the Earth and Moon runes) or two, which rules applies? Also, are Fire and Sky considered the same Rune for purposest of this rule? (eg do the Lowfires, who seem to be Fire but have no association with the sky other than ancestral, count as Sky deities?

[davecake]

The Jakaleel spell Summon Ghost should be called Summon Dead, as Ghosts are explicitly spirits of the dead that have been bound to an area. The essentially identical Ty Kora Ted spell is called Summon Dead. 

It is unclear whether the spirit summoned by the spell is effected by Command Ghost. (both here, and in the Ty Fora Tea write description)

[davecake]

Not only is the section on Lunar Cyclec Rune Magic and the Lunar Timetable unnecessarily repeated in almost every cult in the book, but it is wrong every time but one! As it states that sorcery is unaffected by the Lunar cycle, while the Sorcery description on page 82 states that Sorcery with the Moon Rune is affected by the Lunar Cycle