David Scott Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 @Joerg, these are just my nascent ideas. At the moment I've just reached a new part of the Praxian history section, where Sheng's Empire, Praxians are fighting against him, Praxians are fighting with him and the Pol Joni arrive in Prax. So I'm currently looking at the whole overview. Some of the stuff doesn't make sense at the moment, but your comments are certainly helpful. 14 hours ago, Joerg said: Are the Pol Joni as much of a Praxian tribe? I view them more as a less confrontational repeat of the Pure Horse Folk presence. When he entered Prax, Derik had 20 years of support by Yarandros left before he had to survive by virtue of his own resources. Yes they are a Praxian tribe. Cults of Prax establishes this and lists their Waha and Eiritha cult makeup in appendix C. The Guide says Quote Eventually the Pol-Joni tribe included pygmy riders from the Impala People, dusky alticamulus riders, bearded bison outlaws, and many others from footbound clans as well. All Pol-Joni rode horses. Their cattle bred profusely, and the horses bred true. Within a few generations, the new tribe had grown strong enough to stand as equal to the peoples in the limited area of Prax. They called themselves the Pol-Joni, but the Praxians called them the “bastard tribe” and the “illegal tribe” because they were not pure, or worshipers of the Prax and Paps deities. Nonetheless, trade passed between them, and occasional Pol-Joni went to the Paps to worship. Their warriors were accepted into Praxian secret societies, and they became, in every way, one of the many bickering tribes of the plains. I'm looking at the route to acceptance, clearly it was gradual. But I think Derik discovered a secret to help them. He clearly discovered Jaldon's secret and uses that to ally him to the Pol-joni, but I think he has another link. One of the other areas that I'm looking at is that first age Prax was much more thelyan than it is now, and there's likely an Orlanth link to it. Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/11/2017 at 9:30 AM, David Scott said: This means that although the Pol Joni are a Praxian tribe, they also graze in the Verge, outside of Prax. In my campaign, the Pol Joni were not a Praxian Tribe, so the PCs could make them a Praxian tribe. They took some Grazelander HeroQuestors who had come to Prax as the reborn Pure Horse Tribe and showed that the White Bull was also the White Stallion. When they showed that some of the Pol Joni were also members of the White Bull/White Stallion sacred society, they showed that the Pol Joni were partly Praxian. When they went to the Paps, they found a horse-headed idol, deep within the temple and showed that this was not a zebra idol, so proved that the Pol Joni were Praxians. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0n0cular Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Barbarian Town was featured in Pavic Tales #5-8 and possibly the final issue #9 too, but I don't have that one. Very non-canonical! I'll read through them and post anything that might tie in with what's now known about the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentallion Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 13 hours ago, soltakss said: In my campaign, the Pol Joni were not a Praxian Tribe, so the PCs could make them a Praxian tribe. They took some Grazelander HeroQuestors who had come to Prax as the reborn Pure Horse Tribe and showed that the White Bull was also the White Stallion. When they showed that some of the Pol Joni were also members of the White Bull/White Stallion sacred society, they showed that the Pol Joni were partly Praxian. When they went to the Paps, they found a horse-headed idol, deep within the temple and showed that this was not a zebra idol, so proved that the Pol Joni were Praxians. So just how did your Trickster get deep into the temple with his horse-headed idol? And more importantly: How did you keep him from carving the idol into something more phallic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The phallic idol was the one in the Ernalda Great temple in Esrolia that had a woman with a phallus, the woman looked incredibly like a PC who had borne, for a time, Genert's phallus, giving her the ability to have a phallus whenever required. The PCs "found" the horse-headed idol, which probably meant the idol appeared when they arrived, or had always been there but nobody noticed, or that everyone assumed it was a zebra idol until the PCs proved otherwise. We don't have a trickster in the party, but haven't really needed one as the party tends to cause as many problems as it solves, fortunately for me as a GM. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 3:12 PM, Pentallion said: So just how did your Trickster get deep into the temple with his horse-headed idol? And more importantly: How did you keep him from carving the idol into something more phallic? Look more closely at the horse's nose and cheeks... horses have more than one nostril, and their cheeks aren't that round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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