Tywyll Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I just heard about a Monograph for Elric! called 'Gods of Law'. Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone know where I could pick up a copy or a pdf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Green Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Gods of Law is sadly out of print, and will not likely see printing again. I sold my last comp copy a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywyll Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 Gods of Law is sadly out of print, and will not likely see printing again. I sold my last comp copy a few months ago. ;-( Could you tell me more about what was in it? why won't it see print again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 why won't it see print again? Chaosium no longer has the rights to publish material for the Stormbringer/Eternal Champion license, having sold those rights to Mongoose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaot Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Mongoose now has the rights to publish Moorcock stuff, so Chaosium won't be reprinting. This is a shame because both Gods of Law and Gods of Chaos were insanely cool. I had run a bunch of games in the YK and started getting bored with it, so I decided to shelve the setting and do other things. Charles' monographs got me excited about the setting again. Edit: As far as content, Gods of Law had mook rules and a system of summoning Virtues. These were personified aspects of Law that the summoning champion would strive to emulate. If a worthy champion summoned the virtue, they would gain powers related to the given aspect of Law that the virtue represented. It was very well done. Additionally, he fleshed out some of the history of the YK and made Goldar not so ridiculous. It's really a shame that these books had such a small circulation. It's also a shame that we didn't get a Beast/Plant Lords book, an Elemental Lords book and a Balance book... Quote 70/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywyll Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 If there is anyone who has a copy they are willing to sale, or could make other arrangements, please let me know. I am very interested in this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merak Gren Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Mark me up for Gods of Law too. I managed to find Gods of Chaos in a flgs in Manchester. I never did see any of the others. Quote Likes to sneak around 115/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagabond Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I and others have asked Charlie at Chaosium whether or not the authors of the various Stormbringer monographs could post the pre-published versions online should they so desire. Alas, nobody has gotten any response. -V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerallKahla Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I never got a copy of Gods of Law to clash violently with my Gods of Chaos, and I regret it deeply. While the typesetting and layout of GoC was a little strange, the content is first-rate. I wonder if the writers of these excellent supplements are working with Mongoose on something to support that game? Quote Emerging from my Dark Age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Green Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I wonder if the writers of these excellent supplements are working with Mongoose on something to support that game? I'm the author of both of the monographs you've mentioned above, and I have also done two books for Mongoose's EC line. Despite being written for MRQ, they are very compatible with BRP. The first was Bright Shadows, an in-depth look at Melnibone, the island and its people. The second was Magic of the Young Kingdoms, which is exactly what it sounds like. I'm not currently working on anything for them, but that will likely change in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywyll Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 I'm the author of both of the monographs you've mentioned above, and I have also done two books for Mongoose's EC line. Despite being written for MRQ, they are very compatible with BRP. The first was Bright Shadows, an in-depth look at Melnibone, the island and its people. The second was Magic of the Young Kingdoms, which is exactly what it sounds like. I'm not currently working on anything for them, but that will likely change in the future. I love Magic of the Young Kingdoms, btw. It is wonderful. Am currently trying to work on a way to make 'Paths of Elementals' work in my soon to be run BRP game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence.whitaker Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I never got a copy of Gods of Law to clash violently with my Gods of Chaos, and I regret it deeply. While the typesetting and layout of GoC was a little strange, the content is first-rate. I wonder if the writers of these excellent supplements are working with Mongoose on something to support that game? There's also 'Cults of the Young Kingdoms' coming out in the next few months for Elric, which expands on the basic cult rules from the main Elric game. Its a very different beast to Charles' monographs but again highly compatible with BRP. It also covers lawful, chaotic, elemental and some other, less-easy to categorise YK cults. And, sometime next year I'll be working on a mega-campaign for Elric. Quote The Design Mechanism: Publishers of Mythras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracopticon Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Mark me up for Gods of Law too. I managed to find Gods of Chaos in a flgs in Manchester. I never did see any of the others. Hear, hear! Mark me up also for copies of these if it is at all possible... which it doesn't seem! Which also is cryy-hyyy-ing shame! Or? I mean, on a site like this it should be possible to get loooots people interested in buying atleast a xerox copy of the original, is it so tightly copyrighted?? Just my untethered heart crying here. Quote "I intend to live forever, or die trying" - Groucho Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaot Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Sadly, my understanding is that Chaosium can sell the books they have left when it comes to the Moorcock line and that's it. No reprinting is to be done and Gods of Law is very sold out. It is a crying shame because it did so many things right. It diverged a bit from canon, but it did so very well. It reintroduced Virtues, but they had a Unknown Armies Avatar vibe. You summon saints to gain special powers. There were three circles of initiation and with each circle, the power would be stronger. It introduced rules for the Barrier of Law. It introduced Mook rules. It fleshed out the history to the Church of Law. It also made the cult of Goldar kind of cool. If I had to choose two books to run an EC game it would be Elric! and Gods of Law. If I could add another, it would be Gods of Chaos. If I had a four, I'd add Bronze Grimoire. Quote 70/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerallKahla Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 It reintroduced Virtues, but they had a Unknown Armies Avatar vibe. You summon saints to gain special powers. There were three circles of initiation and with each circle, the power would be stronger. It introduced rules for the Barrier of Law. It introduced Mook rules. It fleshed out the history to the Church of Law. It also made the cult of Goldar kind of cool. Wow. I am fundamentally sorry I missed this book! If I had to choose two books to run an EC game it would be Elric! and Gods of Law. If I could add another, it would be Gods of Chaos. If I had a four, I'd add Bronze Grimoire. That's high praise - those are terrific books. Mr. Green, thanks for sharing! -pax- Quote Emerging from my Dark Age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Bone Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Howdy All, Talking about this, I recently received all the material Richard Watts did for Gods of Law and I'm trying to get Chaosium to allow me to publish it up on Stormbringerrpg.com. I could easily put that (as well as the Guide to Old Hrolmar) up on the site - especially since I did all the layout What I'm really after is a copy of Gods of Chaos, as it is the only SB supplement I don't own... if anyone here does, I'll happily open discussion on purchasing it! Marcus Quote Stormbringer! - Exploring the worlds of the Eternal Champion at http://www.stormbringerrpg.com Unbound Publishing - Bringing back the fear - http://www.unboundbook.org DCtRPG.info - Supporting Dark Conspiracy across the decades - http://www.darkconspiracytherpg.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrk Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Even more reasons why to put out a zothique book :deadhorse: :focus: Edited July 15, 2008 by mrk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Bone Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Good News... I've received permission (from all parties) to upload not only Gods of Law but all of the Stormbringer Monographs to Stormbringerrpg.com. I'm fortunate enough to have .pdf copies of both Old Hrolmar and Gods of Law on my HDD (as I was the one who did the layout) and Charles has kindly forwarded me a copy of his Gods of Chaos Monograph (which I'll reformat to match the other two in style). Don't hold your breath, but they will slowly make their way up to the site! Marcus Quote Stormbringer! - Exploring the worlds of the Eternal Champion at http://www.stormbringerrpg.com Unbound Publishing - Bringing back the fear - http://www.unboundbook.org DCtRPG.info - Supporting Dark Conspiracy across the decades - http://www.darkconspiracytherpg.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaot Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 (which I'll reformat to match the other two in style) Oh hells yeah! A Gods of Chaos that's not a Courier font manuscript? Very cool. I'm glad these monographs aren't going to drop off into obscurity. Nice job Marcus. Quote 70/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies2720 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Don't hold your breath, but they will slowly make their way up to the site!Having missed them, and not found a copy ANYWHERE, this is very good news indeed. Steve Quote Bathalians, the newest UberVillians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerallKahla Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 My excitement is both a) boundless, and creme-filled! My courier-mono copy of Gods of Chaos taunts me from my shelf... "Na-na! You don't have my companion books!" Not for long. . . Thanks so much for putting in this effort, Marcus! Your Stormbringer site is also quite slick. Congrats, my man. -pax- Quote Emerging from my Dark Age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Good News... I've received permission (from all parties) to upload not only Gods of Law but all of the Stormbringer Monographs to Stormbringerrpg.com. Excellent news Marcus. I'm fortunate enough to have .pdf copies of both Old Hrolmar and Gods of Law on my HDD (as I was the one who did the layout) and Charles has kindly forwarded me a copy of his Gods of Chaos Monograph (which I'll reformat to match the other two in style). Even better! Don't hold your breath, but they will slowly make their way up to the site! You know, may be I should go back to trying to finish the rewrite of that epic Stormbringer campaign I was planning to offer for a million spheres... Nick (who already has FAR, FAR too much to do as it is!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies2720 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Nick (who already has FAR, FAR too much to do as it is!)But if you have a nervous breakdown, suddenly you will have lots of time to work on it. So there's a silver lining! >:-> Steve Quote Bathalians, the newest UberVillians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trifletraxor Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Wow! That's just excellent! :happy: SGL. Quote Ef plest master, this mighty fine grub! 116/420. High Priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaot Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Out of curiosity Marcus, how's it coming along? You know, may be I should go back to trying to finish the rewrite of that epic Stormbringer campaign I was planning to offer for a million spheres... Epic Stormbringer campaign? I think the answer is a definite, "Please, yes?" Quote 70/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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