styopa Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, g33k said: Well, even an "inexpensive copyshop" version calls it a "print run" once you get past a few copies... I know you weren't entirely serious, but truly: I'd rather they spend that time/$ pushing to get the books out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, styopa said: I know you weren't entirely serious, but truly: I'd rather they spend that time/$ pushing to get the books out. But with the GenCon special announced -- and all the work complete on it by then -- the incremental time to submit an identical print-job (to some supplier near The Kraken's lair) would be inconsequential. I presume their sale-price (at least) makes up for the printing costs, and likely helps defray other 'Con costs, so... no money invested by Chaosium that isn't recovered before they spend on the final. The good folk organizing The Kraken probably already have the printers lined up, business relationships established, etc. It's not like it'd materially slow down the actual art-and-layout hardcover retail product. And (as noted) the Eurofan's have long been shorted vs "GenCon Special" editions (of course, we Murrikan fans have missed all Chaosium's Kraken/Essen/etc goodness, too!). Edited July 30, 2019 by g33k $ Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedopon Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Those print shop versions are not a money sink for the company, and are inconsequential time sink. Quote 121/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, tedopon said: Those print shop versions are not a money sink for the company, and are inconsequential time sink. Agree - this isn't a major effort, it earns a quick buck to help with cash-flow, and it gets the text into the hands of the most fervent fans. Win/win. Chaosium's plan here looks completely reasonable. Edited July 31, 2019 by Akhôrahil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonsnail Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 The Red Book of Magic is it late, middle or early in the upcoming books queue? I'm easily teased by topics like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 7/29/2019 at 4:45 AM, Rick Meints said: That may sound uncaring, but I lugged books around like that for almost 20 years worth of conventions overseas. But, you did it so well and we are grateful that you did. Of course, as Head Honcho, you'd have people to do that for you now, wouldn't you? Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dragonsnail said: The Red Book of Magic is it late, middle or early in the upcoming books queue? I'm easily teased by topics like this. I'm not sure that it's even on the schedule. Seems to me like it's an internal reference document, since it's just a collation of material from elsewhere. It's a big list of spells. Is that really what we want in an RQG product? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's more than that. Having said that, if I were at GenCon then I would absolutely be going home with one of these in my luggage Edited August 2, 2019 by PhilHibbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, PhilHibbs said: It's a big list of spells. Is that really what we want in an RQG product? It might be, but it should be late in the product cycle in that case, as a reference work. What it looks like, is an internal work document that makes sure the spells are more or less locked down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonsnail Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, PhilHibbs said: I'm not sure that it's even on the schedule. Seems to me like it's an internal reference document, since it's just a collation of material from elsewhere. It's a big list of spells. Is that really what we want in an RQG product? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's more than that. Having said that, if I were at GenCon then I would absolutely be going home with one of these in my luggage I did reflect on that, but as it was titled "Preview" I thought there was something more coming. I agree that it might not be a book for store customers, but maybe a PDF only release for fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Chaosium has a long history of printing small numbers of unfinished works for conventions. Often than not, they were auctioned to cover travel costs of guests or very limited in number. Greg always would come to UK and German Cons with odd bits of manuscript or editing / review copies of works in progress. Jeff has continued this and it's rare to find him at a convention without a pile of bound papers for some upcoming publication. Over the years there have been loads of them and this one is no different. I've a few of these, I'm sure there are others out there with more and others: If you attended the cons you had/have a chance to buy them, otherwise you wait (in a few cases above you are still waiting). Edited August 2, 2019 by David Scott 3 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 You're officially an "A-List Gloranthan"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, David Scott said: I've a few of these, I'm sure there are others out there with more and others: <,mouth watering pics snipped for brevity and bandwidth> GEEK ALERT, GEEK ALERT, GEEK ALERT! 2 Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordabdul Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I like the one that says "Hands Off" 😂 What's in it? 1 Quote Ludovic aka Lordabdul -- read and listen to The God Learners , the Gloranthan podcast, newsletter, & blog ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, lordabdul said: What's in it? 3 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHistorian Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 A friend picked up the preview books for me at Gen Con. The Gods books were signed and numbered (edition of 40 apparently), but the Magic book was only signed. Anyone hear how big the print run was for that one? Quote 44/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 hours ago, TheHistorian said: A friend picked up the preview books for me at Gen Con. The Gods books were signed and numbered (edition of 40 apparently), but the Magic book was only signed. Anyone hear how big the print run was for that one? 40 1 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styopa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 23 hours ago, TheHistorian said: A friend picked up the preview books for me at Gen Con. The Gods books were signed and numbered (edition of 40 apparently), but the Magic book was only signed. Anyone hear how big the print run was for that one? Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHistorian Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Rick Meints said: 40 Thanks, Rick! Quote 44/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCurmudgeon Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Pardon me for resurrecting this conversation, but I recently came across the Gen Con 2019 Preview Editions for Volume I & II, the Gen Con 51 Preview Edition, and the Red Book of Magic Gen Con 2019 Preview Edition. The Volume I & II copies are numbered 2 of 40 and signed by Jeff. The Gen Con 51 copy is unnumbered & signed by Greg, and the Red Book is unnumbered and signed by Jeff. How rare are these copies? History? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 11 hours ago, OldCurmudgeon said: Pardon me for resurrecting this conversation, but I recently came across the Gen Con 2019 Preview Editions for Volume I & II, the Gen Con 51 Preview Edition, and the Red Book of Magic Gen Con 2019 Preview Edition. The Volume I & II copies are numbered 2 of 40 and signed by Jeff. The Gen Con 51 copy is unnumbered & signed by Greg, and the Red Book is unnumbered and signed by Jeff. How rare are these copies? History? As the Red Book of Magic book is out this is likely only of interest for collectors. The Cults of Glorantha likewise, although not all the books have been published yet, so for some cults, this is currently the only way to get some of the RQG writeups. See also: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/gen-con-gods-of-glorantha-preview/ https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/cults-of-runequest-series/runequest-gods-of-glorantha-previews-2019/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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