Manu Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Is there a anti-chaos cult in the Earth Pantheon? Or are they always counting on the husband part (Orlanth, Yelm, ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Manu said: Is there a anti-chaos cult in the Earth Pantheon? Or are they always counting on the husband part (Orlanth, Yelm, ...) Pamalt and formerly Genert. with Tada acting as defender, too. And Baroshi. The deaths of Genert and Tada and Baroshi hidden leaves a gap that the husband protectors like Argan Argarstep in to fill. If you take the options in Sandy Petersen's Gods War game as canon, there can be a Chaos husband protector, too - anything is more acceptable than hungry Death (Nontraya/Vivamort/Zorak Zoran) or Oblivion. 2 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Manu said: Is there a anti-chaos cult in the Earth Pantheon? Or are they always counting on the husband part (Orlanth, Yelm, ...) Babeester fought Chaos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRE Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Aldrya (even if asleep / hidden) through High King Elf, as it is one of the standard participants in I fought we won. Forests near Chaos infestations surely have specialized seeds, healing rituals and arrows for chaos slaying and purification. As metcalph says, Death is effective against chaos, and BG fought chaos and survived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Then a village pure Earth pantheon (Ernalda), close to an Chaos nest, could have anti chaos baberter gory, or Aldrya/High King worshipper to protect the clan? And if this village is in the South (even Umathela?), they could have Pamalt worshipper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manunancy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 A subcult of Babesteer Gor or Maran Gor would seem the logical candidate for that - possibly with some Urox association for some extra anti-chaos magic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Babeester Gor is not specialised in fighting Chaos - she fights whatever threatens the Earth with equal vehemence. She does not have specialised Chaos-fighting magic. That's pretty much the province of Storm Bull and Kyger Litor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Manu said: Is there a anti-chaos cult in the Earth Pantheon? Or are they always counting on the husband part (Orlanth, Yelm, ...) There might have been, if Genert or Tada had lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Desperate WindChild Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 By the way, we have the underworld and surface/middle air cults specialised against chaos, what about see and sky ? is water, by nature, not impacted ? is the red moon / nysalor the sky answer ? (Kind of aikido opposition = your strength is my strength = illumination) Or both sky and see have some gods to fight chaos ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Doesn’t Barb Gore have some kind of “sense despoiler” ability? I think I remember reading it’s triggered by overt chaos like Broos, not so much by civilised Lunar chaos… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Yes. All the Husband Protectors handle it. Though it should be said that none of the Husband Protectors are Chaos killers as a main focus. Killing Chaos is important to them certainly, but most access anti-Chaos spells via associate status with other cults. Babeester Gor is more concerned with avenging crimes against the Earth Mothers, rather than Chao-hunting specifically. Though in fairness, it's very easy to see an Axe Sister hunting a Broo band that violated an Earth sanctuary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 13 hours ago, French Desperate WindChild said: By the way, we have the underworld and surface/middle air cults specialised against chaos, what about see and sky ? is water, by nature, not impacted ? is the red moon / nysalor the sky answer ? (Kind of aikido opposition = your strength is my strength = illumination) Or both sky and see have some gods to fight chaos ? Not every elemental "pantheon" has to have gods to fill every niche, especially since the elements are by no means completely separate factions, and the concept of them being organized into pantheons is just a way the god learners categorized them for scientific purposes. The god of Anti-Chaos for the whole world, not just the "Air Pantheon", is the Storm Bull - Anti-Chaos is another name for his personal rune, after all. Kyger Litor and Baroshi have some anti-chaos powers and associations, but they're not fully anti-chaos gods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard S. said: Not every elemental "pantheon" has to have gods to fill every niche, especially since the elements are by no means completely separate factions, and the concept of them being organized into pantheons is just a way the god learners categorized them for scientific purposes. The god of Anti-Chaos for the whole world, not just the "Air Pantheon", is the Storm Bull - Anti-Chaos is another name for his personal rune, after all. Kyger Litor and Baroshi have some anti-chaos powers and associations, but they're not fully anti-chaos gods. Every pantheon fills the needs of its worshipers. Not every society requires every perceived niche filled.The Triolini [Water] Pantheon doesn't really need an anti-Chaos cult because most of Magasta and Wachaza are very war-like themselves, for just one example. Yelm worshiping areas have the semi-underground cult of Lodril for when the noble Sun-Lords get too full of themselves, but Orlanthi society doesn't require a 'god of righteous resistance /rebellion'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 4 hours ago, EricW said: Doesn’t Barb Gore have some kind of “sense despoiler” ability? I think I remember reading it’s triggered by overt chaos like Broos, not so much by civilised Lunar chaos… This is the first I've heard of it. I thought the normal way things were handled is that the crime against the Earth is reported to an Earth temple and the message passed on to the BBGs who go on a rampage from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Darius West said: This is the first I've heard of it. I thought the normal way things were handled is that the crime against the Earth is reported to an Earth temple and the message passed on to the BBGs who go on a rampage from there. Me bad, probably non-canon - http://www.jane-williams.me.uk/glorantha/vinga/bgor.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 5 hours ago, EricW said: Me bad, probably non-canon - http://www.jane-williams.me.uk/glorantha/vinga/bgor.cfm Wow, that write-up is ridiculously OP, less canon than cannon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecake Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 If your players want a Chaos fighting Earth cult, they should go into Snakepipe Hollow and awaken Baroshi, then build up his cult. Ideally after bringing Baroshi back to life by heroquesting in the Eleven Lights heroquest. Well, that’s what my players are doing, anyway. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, davecake said: If your players want a Chaos fighting Earth cult, they should go into Snakepipe Hollow and awaken Baroshi, then build up his cult. Ideally after bringing Baroshi back to life by heroquesting in the Eleven Lights heroquest. Well, that’s what my players are doing, anyway. I believe what you are suggesting is what the Snakepipe Dancers of the Sartar Magical Union represent in the boardgame. Edited May 16, 2022 by Darius West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebrand Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 12:19 PM, Jeff said: Babeester Gor is not specialised in fighting Chaos - she fights whatever threatens the Earth with equal vehemence. She does not have specialised Chaos-fighting magic. That's pretty much the province of Storm Bull and Kyger Litor. To be fair, she needs as much specialized chaos-fighting magic as an f-35 needs anti-personal ammunition (which is not at all). Quote "It seems I'm destined not to move ahead in time faster than my usual rate of one second per second" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 6:50 AM, svensson said: Though it should be said that none of the Husband Protectors are Chaos killers as a main focus. Well, Storm Bull. 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Akhôrahil said: Well, Storm Bull. 🙂 But Storm Bull isn't a Husband Protector. At least I thought so. Storm Bull is the husband of Eiritha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, svensson said: But Storm Bull isn't a Husband Protector. At least I thought so. Storm Bull is the husband of Eiritha. RQG, p. 294. "Storm Bull: The Storm Bull is worshiped as Ernalda’s husband in Esrolia and by the rare Ernalda worshipers of the Wastes. He provides Impede Chaos." He's also a husband-protector among the Bilini, as per Dorastor: Land of Doom, and presumably in other places that have Storm Bull without having Eiritha. Edited May 18, 2022 by Akhôrahil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, svensson said: But Storm Bull isn't a Husband Protector. At least I thought so. Storm Bull is the husband of Eiritha. "Any husband of one of my daughters is a husband of mine, for I am the Fertile Earth, as are they for their aspects." Edited May 18, 2022 by Joerg 3 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Joerg said: "Any husband of one of my daughters is a husband of mine, for I am the Fertile Earth, as are they for their aspects." Whalp.... guess I was wrong on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, svensson said: Whalp.... guess I was wrong on that one. No worries, I made that up as a possible in-world reply to your conundrum. Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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