Beoferret Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 While the biggest question many of us had about upcoming publications has been answered (*see "The Cults of Runequest"), I'm wondering about a small scale addition that was first announced well over a year ago: the non-human adventurer pre-gens! (For anyone who doesn't know about this or remember it, hark and attend to this blog post: https://www.chaosium.com/blogcoming-later-this-year-for-the-runequest-starter-set-14-more-pregen-characters-nonhuman-adventurers/) Is this still a project that's intended for our greedy hands and minds within the year or has it been put on the proverbial back burner for the foreseeable future? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Beoferret said: While the biggest question many of us had about upcoming publications has been answered (*see "The Cults of Runequest"), I'm wondering about a small scale addition that was first announced well over a year ago: the non-human adventurer pre-gens! (For anyone who doesn't know about this or remember it, hark and attend to this blog post: https://www.chaosium.com/blogcoming-later-this-year-for-the-runequest-starter-set-14-more-pregen-characters-nonhuman-adventurers/) Is this still a project that's intended for our greedy hands and minds within the year or has it been put on the proverbial back burner for the foreseeable future? "Great Minds," &c ... I too have been wondering about those non-human adventurers! I think we tag @Jason D on this one. IIRC he was the one doing it. I expect -- given the recent "Age of the ORC" announcements -- that these pre-gens have had zero attention since the OGL pushback on WotC began. Once that new edition of BRP gets completed, he'll be free(er) to do other things, but I'm unclear whether those freebies will be at the top of the pile... I presume the push there will have postponed other (for which read: salable) products. Chaosium has gotta keep an eye on the bottom line, after all! Maybe whichever ones that are complete could be released sooner, with plans to complete the set piecemeal over time? Or maybe none of them are "complete" -- the Starter Set existing folio's all have that glorious artwork, and maybe (since the characters aren't done, as a project) Chaosium hasn't advanced to getting art for any of them. Edited March 29, 2023 by g33k 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 1:24 AM, g33k said: "Great Minds," &c ... I too have been wondering about those non-human adventurers! I think we tag @Jason D on this one. IIRC he was the one doing it. They are complete. The art is done. Layout has been the bottleneck. Here's a sample character: 9 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jason D said: They are complete. The art is done. Layout has been the bottleneck. Here's a sample character Looking forward to seeing them! This one looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Farrell Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) What layout? I recall the pregens being a full page illustration and a template that coud be filled in with whatever text and values. The more I hear about this queue, the more it sounds like Chaosium puts things in a strict first in, first out order, regardless of the relative size of the projects. That seems odd to me, indefinitely delaying something that might take an hour until something that might take 150 hours is completed. I'm open to and happy to be corrected if this isn't accurate. It's something I've thought about several times and I decided to say it out loud this time. Edited April 7, 2023 by Jason Farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beoferret Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Jason D said: They are complete. The art is done. Layout has been the bottleneck. Here's a sample character: ..... Thanks for sharing, Jason! I don't care what the Eurmali spirits of mischief say about you. You're alright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Jason Farrell said: What layout? I recall the pregens being a full page illustration and a template that coud be filled in with whatever text and values. The more I hear about this queue, the more it sounds like Chaosium puts things in a strict first in, first out order, regardless of the relative size of the projects. The new layout format for the pregens is more complicated than that, and our primary layout person is shared between RuneQuest, Pendragon, and Rivers of London. They have also been working on four Cults of RuneQuest books for almost half a year. We brought in someone else to work on BRP specifically to not upset the production queue. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Wulfraed Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Doesn't look too cheery given the rose-colored glasses 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Baron Wulfraed said: Doesn't look too cheery given the rose-colored glasses 🥴 Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr0p0s Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeff said: Huh? The trollkin illustrated above is wearing rose tinted glasses. And looking determined... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentorange Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Jeff said: Huh? The saying about looking at the world through Rose tinted glasses....... ........which you may not have in the USA of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) Well, the rose colored shades [Andy Warhol anyone?] and the Moon Rune pendant.... And @Agentorange it isn't the rose colored glasses, my friend, it's having to separate them from lava lamps, black light velour posters, and corduroy pants zip-zip-zipping down the street. Oh, and white dudes with afros that are starting to morph into mullets... THA HORRAH! Edited April 8, 2023 by svensson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Duguid Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 16 hours ago, Jason D said: Here's a sample character: Looks carefully at necklace pendant. Wait ... is that a Lunar trollkin? Do those rose-tinted glasses mean that they like to see the whole world as if they were within the Glowline?! 1 1 Quote -- An Unofficial Buyer's Guide to RuneQuest and Glorantha lists everything currently available for the game and setting, across 60 pages. "Lavishly illustrated throughout, festooned with hyperlinks" - Nick Brooke. The Voralans presents Glorantha's magical mushroom humanoids, the black elves. "A wonderful blend of researched detail and Glorantha crazy" - Austin Conrad. The Children of Hykim documents Glorantha's shape-changing totemic animal people, the Hsunchen. "Stunning depictions of shamanistic totem-animal people, really evocative" - Philip H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGoth Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Brian Duguid said: Looks carefully at necklace pendant. Wait ... is that a Lunar trollkin? Do those rose-tinted glasses mean that they like to see the whole world as if they were within the Glowline?! We are all Us. And that includes Uz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid a bod yn dwp Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 19 hours ago, Jason D said: They are complete. The art is done. Layout has been the bottleneck. Here's a sample character: Love this. Fun and characterful, plenty of animation…very Trollkiny. New artist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 20 hours ago, Jason D said: They are complete. The art is done. Layout has been the bottleneck. Here's a sample character: Very cool! Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Paid a bod yn dwp said: Love this. Fun and characterful, plenty of animation…very Trollkiny. New artist? Lionel Marty, who has been playing RQ since the 90s and has done art for many of the new books. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Jason D said: Lionel Marty, who has been playing RQ since the 90s and has done art for many of the new books. Love the art. Thanks Lionel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) On 4/7/2023 at 9:57 AM, Jason D said: ... Here's a sample character ... Excellent, and TYVM for sharing!!! A question, though: I'm planning to start sharing some BRP & RQ stuff with some of my not-yet-RQ gaming friends (pitching the system to them) so I want to be accurate in my shares: are these pregens planned to be a freebie add-on to the "Starter Set"? Or will they be a separately-purchased item? Edited April 9, 2023 by g33k Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Interesting. Is that bug a giant version of something? Or is it a very small trollkin? 😛 More seriously, is there an agreement with anyone (like MadKnight) to get miniatures made of them? (for that matter, what about some of the other pre-gens that weren't made (AFAIK))? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Duguid Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 16 hours ago, g33k said: I'mlanning to start sharing some BRP & RQ stuff with some of my not-yet-RQ gaming friends (pitching the system to them) so I want to be accurate in my shares: are these pregens planned to be a freebie add-on to the "Starter Set"? Or will they be a separately-purchased item? The announcement here said they were coming (later in 2022, but never mind) for the Starter Set; and all the human pre-gens for the Starter Set can be freely downloaded. I'm adding 1+1 to make 2, but Your Arithmetic May Vary. :-). Quote -- An Unofficial Buyer's Guide to RuneQuest and Glorantha lists everything currently available for the game and setting, across 60 pages. "Lavishly illustrated throughout, festooned with hyperlinks" - Nick Brooke. The Voralans presents Glorantha's magical mushroom humanoids, the black elves. "A wonderful blend of researched detail and Glorantha crazy" - Austin Conrad. The Children of Hykim documents Glorantha's shape-changing totemic animal people, the Hsunchen. "Stunning depictions of shamanistic totem-animal people, really evocative" - Philip H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 20 hours ago, g33k said: Excellent, and TYVM for sharing!!! A question, though: I'mlanning to start sharing some BRP & RQ stuff with some of my not-yet-RQ gaming friends (pitching the system to them) so I want to be accurate in my shares: are these pregens planned to be a freebie add-on to the "Starter Set"? Or will they be a separately-purchased item? The goal was to have them free and based on the Starter Set. So they won't have any spells that aren't in the core book, for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Shiningbrow said: Is that bug a giant version of something? Or is it a very small trollkin? 😛 Trollkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 +ping+ @Jason D -- On 4/7/2023 at 9:57 AM, Jason D said: ... Layout has been the bottleneck ... I presume (since the downloads for the Starter Set still don't have the nonhumans) that layout is still the bottleneck. Have you considered a sword?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cupnnTpHOGA But in the meantime... is there any sense, there @Chaosium, of when we might hope to see these released? These were announced well over a year ago, for release (sometime) in 2022... 4 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) And -- it being 6 months further on, and noting Chaosium's self-declared "production&layout logjam" of the Cults books having been broken -- I reiterate my last post in thread, summarized as: PING @Jason D -- any ETA or further word? Edited December 15, 2023 by g33k 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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