Jon Hunter Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 A similar question to the passions question ealrier; Are the geases for Humatki, Yelmalio, are they Intended as definitive lists of what does exist within the cults in game world examples of things that could exists within the cults, and is presented a limited list for sake of brevity and game play My view they are examples of what could be, do others agree? Also do gifts and geases exist for other cults but are less common? Is there a connection between the truth rune and gifts and geases? Quote www.backtobalazar.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumath Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'd go with 2. There are bound to be unique geases that certain Humakti have. Plus, YGWV. As long as new geases are of a similar level of inconvenience as the existing ones, and not just 'cannot lick fingers on Godsday' or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Jon Hunter said: Are the geases for Humatki, Yelmalio, are they Intended as definitive lists of what does exist within the cults in game world examples of things that could exists within the cults, and is presented a limited list for sake of brevity and game play RQG 296: Quote Humakt’s Gifts The following shows twelve standard Humakti gifts. Others have been given by the god throughout Time, and may be given again. Yelmalio (RQG 308–309) does not specify one way or another. I would rule that exceptional geese exist, because it is the case for Humakt (and because I find exceptional or unusual gifts & geese to be Most Fun). Quote Jonstown Compendium author. Find my publications here. Disclaimer: affiliate link. Social Media: Facebook Patreon Twitter Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'd have the listed Gifts/Geasa as the most common, but yeah -- they're only examples, not a comprehensive list. I'd be careful not to allow trivial compensating Geasa, or allow too-good a Gift. I'd mostly limit Gifts and Geasa to those deities for which the practice explicit in the rules... "mostly," you'll note: I wouldn't automatically just say "no" to a player with an interesting idea! Note also that there are some implicit Gift/Geas bits floating around, too, such as Chalana Arroy's prohibition against fighting, the Orlanthi riddle-vs-Yelm, etc... Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 As Crel points out others do exist, but are probably uncommon or rare. I think some more powerful gifts probably exist as well, but with correspondingly more restrictive gifts. 1 Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Jon Hunter said: My view they are examples of what could be, do others agree? Also do gifts and geases exist for other cults but are less common? Is there a connection between the truth rune and gifts and geases? Yes. Yes. And no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Crel said: exceptional geese exist The ones blessed by Ernalda and Imarja. 😉 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, jajagappa said: The ones blessed by Ernalda and Imarja. 😉 Geese is the only acceptable plural of geas and dammit that is a hill I'm willing to die on. 3 Quote Jonstown Compendium author. Find my publications here. Disclaimer: affiliate link. Social Media: Facebook Patreon Twitter Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Crel said: Geese is the only acceptable plural of geas and dammit that is a hill I'm willing to die on. The geese dispute it and say they aren't bound by any such geasa! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, jajagappa said: The ones blessed by Ernalda and Imarja. 😉 10 minutes ago, Crel said: Geese is the only acceptable plural of geas and dammit that is a hill I'm willing to die on. 7 minutes ago, jajagappa said: The geese dispute it and say they aren't bound by any such geasa! I shall just... duck... this one! 2 Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Crel said: Geese is the only acceptable plural of geas and dammit that is a hill I'm willing to die on. Say there, Crel ol' buddy... I'd be a bit... cautious, if I was you. That there Hill yer on looks kind of ... Gold. 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Bill the barbarian said: I shall just... duck... this one! Chicken! Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joerg said: Chicken! That was just fowl! 1 Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 There he quails... 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hunter said: definitive lists of what does exist within the cults in game world Yes. These geases are what are commonly found and available in the cults. On 12/19/2019 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hunter said: examples of things that could exists within the cults, and is presented a limited list for sake of brevity and game play Yes. There are clearly more geases available, as more geases have been written up for NPCs in scenarios. So, both are true. All cults get the geases mentioned in the books, but some PCs or NPCs can get other geases. For example, the hawk riders in Dykene get geases such as "Never let a hawk suffer needlessly", which is different from the standard Yelmalio geas. Is "Never let an Elf suffer needlessly" still an available geas? I always liked that one. On 12/19/2019 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hunter said: Also do gifts and geases exist for other cults but are less common? Yes, many people get HeroQuesting geases, for other cults. On 12/19/2019 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hunter said: Is there a connection between the truth rune and gifts and geases? People have mentioned this before. Thanatar has geases and is a Truth Rune Cult, for example. However, Lhankor Mhy is a Truth Rune Cult without geases, so it doesn't always apply. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochie Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I think there's an argument for every cult having gifts and geases. The more you resemble your god (by denying yourself what has been mythically denied to your god), the more powers you start sharing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, gochie said: I think there's an argument for every cult having gifts and geases. The more you resemble your god (by denying yourself what has been mythically denied to your god), the more powers you start sharing with it. There is a counter-argument that is spelled E U R M A L... 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochie Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Joerg said: There is a counter-argument that is spelled E U R M A L... Why would Eurmal not offer gifts and geases? Hell, he would have the most fun ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, gochie said: Why would Eurmal not offer gifts and geases? Hell, he would have the most fun ones! One geas would be to break all other geases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qizilbashwoman Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Akhôrahil said: One geas would be to break all other geases. i did read a story, i mentioned it on these boards but I can't remember where I found it, where the Eurmali of a group was a generally strange but not cruel woman who would inexplicably do absolutely batshit things that could get her dismembered at one point she tells another person that she awoke in her initiation to Eurmal's gifts, but discovered they come with a price: if she doesn't do something relentlessly foolish like attempting to reverse pickpocket a Chaotic charm into the purse of the leader of partying Storm Bulls about once a day, a curse lays into her far worse than the potential beating death at the hands of the Storm Bulls if they catch her her magic was really potent but her geas was pretty heinous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Naimless has a geas to kill anyone who asks her what her real name is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian A. Thomson Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 12/21/2019 at 9:36 AM, soltakss said: Is "Never let an Elf suffer needlessly" still an available geas? I always liked that one. Leaving scope for personal discernment? "Pointy-eared little b'strd. The way he spoke to that Stormbull; he deserves every second of the brutal bashing he's now getting. It'll teach him to be politer. And if he doesn't survive it'll be a lesson to the rest of his kind." 1 Quote ------------------------------------ Former Issaries Inc. 'Pavis Expert' Some of my creations and co-creations: https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/browse?keyword=Ian Thomson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Ian Thomson said: Leaving scope for personal discernment? "Pointy-eared little b'strd. The way he spoke to that Stormbull; he deserves every second of the brutal bashing he's now getting. It'll teach him to be politer. And if he doesn't survive it'll be a lesson to the rest of his kind." I always love the inclusion of the word "needlessly" in these geases. It's a Get Out of Jail Free Card for most Adventurers. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali the Helering Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 12/19/2019 at 9:34 PM, Crel said: Geese is the only acceptable plural of geas and dammit that is a hill I'm willing to die on. Sorry, buddy. Geasa is the plural in Erse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 3 hours ago, soltakss said: I always love the inclusion of the word "needlessly" in these geases. It's a Get Out of Jail Free Card for most Adventurers. "That horse had it coming." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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