Scotty Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Orlanthatemyhamster said: Could we have an update to the contents of the book, pretty please? Note that this is subject to change. It's the same as the 2019 Previews with the following minor changes: (As a side note, if anyone has a better picture of the Gen Con 2019 Preview, i'd be grateful) Trolls +Inora Sea Gods +Triolina +Wachaza Earth +Cult of the Bloody Tusk -Hykim & Mikyh +Pamalt Sun +Ourania Shaman Horned Man (was 17, now +24 giving 41 spirit cults) +Hykim & Mikyh (Basmol, +Mralota, +Pralor, +Rathor, Telmor) Moon +Crimson Bat Chaos -Crimson Bat 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Ta very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Desperate WindChild Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Scotty said: Shaman Horned Man (was 17, now +24 giving 41 spirit cults) +Hykim & Mikyh (Basmol, +Mralota, +Pralor, +Rathor, Telmor) Nice ! 3 hours ago, Scotty said: Earth +Pamalt Is Pamalt worshipped on Genertela ? I don't measure the importance of this god in the dragon pass setting 3 hours ago, Scotty said: Trolls +Inora will the Inora's cult description describe its relationship with human (and for example orlanthi questers ) or is it only a troll cult ? In a larger perspective, is there any description of how a cult reacts when (if it can) it "feels" there is / was an heroquest from another community involving its god (friendly / neutral / hostile) ? Is there option to "counter" the heroquest or once engaged, you can only see what will be the result (of course, you can act in the mundane world, war, protest, trial, ... my question is about the heroquest itself) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Orlanthatemyhamster said: Still seems odd though. Not really. Heler was a water deity before he joined the Storm Tribe, by which I mean that he marched with his Water kin. So, invading the Sky with Lorion/Sky River Titan sounds like the kind of thing that a martial sky deity would do. He then gets eaten by a dragon and waits for Orlanth to pull him out, before joining the Storm Tribe. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, French Desperate WindChild said: Is Pamalt worshipped on Genertela ? I don't measure the importance of this god in the dragon pass setting Well, he did create the Agimori so maybe they worship him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, French Desperate WindChild said: Is Pamalt worshipped on Genertela ? I don't measure the importance of this god in the dragon pass setting No. but the book does focus on the monomyth. Other gods are also identified as Pamalelan gods. Asrelia = Aleshmara, Ernalda = Faranar, etc. 49 minutes ago, French Desperate WindChild said: In a larger perspective This not the heroquesting rules. 36 minutes ago, French Desperate WindChild said: will the Inora's cult description describe its relationship with human (and for example orlanthi questers ) or is it only a troll cult ? Orlanthi, Praxian, and Troll Pantheons (also as a spirit cult) As before, this info is taken from the draft, so cults could still be, added, altered or removed. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, French Desperate WindChild said: Is Pamalt worshipped on Genertela ? I don't measure the importance of this god in the dragon pass setting If you've looked over the full set of deities, and seen the images shared by Jeff regarding the monomyth, then you see that a number of these deities are included because they fill in critical parts of the full story of the monomyth. Most sea gods, for instance, are not worshiped in Genertela either, but are a crucial piece to understanding the whole interaction of Gloranthan myth. 1 hour ago, French Desperate WindChild said: will the Inora's cult description describe its relationship with human (and for example orlanthi questers ) or is it only a troll cult ? I think it's more accurate to say she fits under Darkness, rather than trolls. And she does have human worshipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, Scotty said: As before, this info is taken from the draft, so cults could still be, added, altered or removed. Not at this point, as the book is about to enter final layout. Pamalt was included because he has lots of ties to other cults and helps show the cosmological differences between Genertela (where Genert the Earth King died) and Pamaltela (where the Earth King survived). I am pretty pleased by the final list. Cults like the Invisible God, Godunya, Ompalam, Seseine, Idovanus, Charmain, the Jernotian Ring, Biselenslib, Tholm, Pavis, Flintnail, and Zola Fel all are better placed in other vehicles. I went around and around about including Entekos (aka Molanni), but ultimately decided against it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Jeff said: Not at this point, as the book is about to enter final layout. Pamalt was included because he has lots of ties to other cults and helps show the cosmological differences between Genertela (where Genert the Earth King died) and Pamaltela (where the Earth King survived). I am pretty pleased by the final list. Cults like the Invisible God, Godunya, Ompalam, Seseine, Idovanus, Charmain, the Jernotian Ring, Biselenslib, Tholm, Pavis, Flintnail, and Zola Fel all are better placed in other vehicles. I went around and around about including Entekos (aka Molanni), but ultimately decided against it. Great! Will we see some "Pamalts rune" spells? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The Pamaltan runespells are in TBRBoS, I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jose said: Great! Will we see some "Pamalts rune" spells? No, since it's not one of the core runes as RQG defines them, just a combination/personal rune like Issaries or Eternal Battle. He'll probably still be listed as Earth+Pamalt, but his special spells are probably going to be Earthtouch and Gnome-to-Gargoyle, which are both Earth spells in the RBoM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard S. said: No, since it's not one of the core runes as RQG defines them, just a combination/personal rune like Issaries or Eternal Battle. He'll probably still be listed as Earth+Pamalt, but his special spells are probably going to be Earthtouch and Gnome-to-Gargoyle, which are both Earth spells in the RBoM. The reason I not seeing it being there is that its not a rune that is prevalent in Dragon Pass, and the core book is almost explicitly about Sartar with other places added in to give flavour. It is also a vast simplification of how the world and the runes are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Orlanthatemyhamster said: The reason I not seeing it being there is that its not a rune that is prevalent in Dragon Pass, and the core book is almost explicitly about Sartar with other places added in to give flavour. It is also a vast simplification of how the world and the runes are. The reason I did not put it there is that it is unnecessary in order to make the rules mechanics function. Which is what their function is in the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Orlanthatemyhamster said: The reason I not seeing it being there is that its not a rune that is prevalent in Dragon Pass, and the core book is almost explicitly about Sartar with other places added in to give flavour. It is also a vast simplification of how the world and the runes are. The setting of the core rules is Dragon Pass, yes, but the mechanics are not specific to that one place. Even if we haven't gotten official support for them yet, we know the designers intend for adventures in the rest of the lozenge to eventually be possible. The runes on the character sheet are a selection of the core runes, which are a lozenge-wide accepted thing, and it's been canon for a while that runes like Pamalt, Issaries, and Eternal Battle are just derivatives of the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Jeff said: The reason I did not put it there is that it is unnecessary in order to make the rules mechanics function. Which is what their function is in the rules. I think I was trying to say the same thing. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard S. said: The setting of the core rules is Dragon Pass, yes, but the mechanics are not specific to that one place. Even if we haven't gotten official support for them yet, we know the designers intend for adventures in the rest of the lozenge to eventually be possible. The runes on the character sheet are a selection of the core runes, which are a lozenge-wide accepted thing, and it's been canon for a while that runes like Pamalt, Issaries, and Eternal Battle are just derivatives of the core. I didn't say they weren't for use elsewhere, eventually. But anywhere not Sartaritish is a long way off, looking at the vaguely official timeline of products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, Orlanthatemyhamster said: I didn't say they weren't for use elsewhere, eventually. But anywhere not Sartaritish is a long way off, looking at the vaguely official timeline of products. Main books I am working on are Cults (layout and graphic design), Sartar (art), GM book (with lots of Heroquest related stuff), Prax, and gathering material on the Holy Country and the Lunar Empire. 8 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlanthatemyhamster Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Jeff said: Main books I am working on are Cults (layout and graphic design), Sartar (art), GM book (with lots of Heroquest related stuff), Prax, and gathering material on the Holy Country and the Lunar Empire. Great! 😀🙂 All Sartar adjacent, or general topics. Thanks for the clarification Jeff. I know people are working on stuff further afield, but thought/knew these were probably further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Are we there yet? 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brionl Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Moooommm! @Jose is touching me! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Vicarious Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 7:11 AM, Jose said: Are we there yet? 😁 If the pair of you can't behave back there we'll turn this thread around back to 2019 and there will be no GaGoG for anyone. 2 hours ago, brionl said: Moooommm! @Jose is touching me! 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey68uk Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Any idea when GaGoG will be released? Also, is there a rough estimate when Weapons & Equipment physical copy will be available to buy? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Regarding Weapons & Equipment see Whatever that means ... 😉 Otherwise see Jeff's comment above: Edited March 20, 2022 by Oracle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey68uk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Thanks for the update Oracle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 My inner 6-year old is frustrated with the progress in RQG. The adult in me understands... COVID, supply chain issues, the Great Employment Reset, political fracases [fracii?] between the US /UK /AUS and China, all these lead to delays. And that's not even getting into the issues of writing for a property that has the same depth of lore as Traveller's OTU or MAR Barker's Tekumel. What's more, the quality of artwork, layout, and editing at Chaosium is top-notch. This stuff isn't being put together on weekends on your 5 y/o tower computer on the dining room table like a fan-zine in the 80s. But my inner is 6-year old is still frustrated. It seems like Cthulhu and KAP get first dibs on Chaosium's main effort. That's not true, and rationally I know that. But it feels that way sometimes. But you how it is when you're six... 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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